[PD] Pop-up window

[Johannes M Zmoelnig]

very beautiful:

On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Krzysztof Czaja wrote:
> 1. If the changes are immediately reflected in an object box text,
> then there is nothing radical in it, in fact, there is little
> difference between such a generic dialog and generic `info' message
> printing object's usage info to the terminal window (my proposal
> from some time ago).

great, but then we have to tighten somehow (??) pd to the tcl/tk-interface
which should not be done (as i understand it).
since i am no tcl/tk-hacker i really do not know how this should be done
(and therefore it might be quite easily applied, and my thoughts are
naught)

> 2. If, on the other hand, the argument values I see in an object box
> are different from those that are in effect because of changing them
> in some dialog window (and those that I will see after reloading of
> the patch), then it is going to be a mess I am likely to be completely
> lost in.
which would be much easier to implement and absolutely nasty (i (speaking
for me) would not like this either)

> 
> 3. There is a possible change of focus.  The purity in Pd promotes
> `distributed' way of doing things.  Simple objects usually require
> a simple and small set of arguments.  I suspect, that the main
> reason why we need this `argument template dialog', is that we need
> to pack (too?) many features into one external.

yo.
as a matter of fact, the programming paradigm of pd is still(?) to see 
what a patch is doing, by simply looking at it (which btw keeps patches
readable, even if you pause using it for some time...)

i am still troubled by the iem_gui's (which i use much), because they are
so overloaded.
pe: who needs an "init"-value if we have (hidden) receive-symbols, so we
could initialize these guis from a (separate) init-patch ?
would it be a very bad idea, to remove such redundant features now (after
everybody started to use them) ? i do think so....
this, of course, does not apply to gui-properties like colour,...

> But experiences vary, the 1-3 are only my doubts,
and mine...
> I have no strong and clear opinion on that matter.
my (personal) opinion: keep pd pure data

mfg.cds.sadf
IOhannes