[PD] window managers and keybindings

[Miller Puckette]

So I get the impression I should confine myself to ctrl, shift, and alt-gr
keys as mouse click modifiers... just one question: what's "alt-gr"???  I
can't find one on any ofthe keyboards here...

thanks
Miller

On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 12:27:18PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Christian Klippel hat gesagt: // Christian Klippel wrote:
> 
> > forgot to metion in my last mail that in most windowmanagers
> > alt-somewhat combos always belong to either the wm or to the
> > used toolkit/gui-kit (for example to access menu entrys and the like)
> > to have "good" keybindings in an application, its better to use the
> > shift, ctrl, or alt-gr key(s) in combination with the mouse or other keys.
> > simple to remeber : anything with an alt-key belongs somehow to the
> > gui-kit.......
> > at least i dont know any shift/ctrl-click combinations that belong to a wm/gui-kit
> > directly.
> 
> I would like it that way, too. Altough I think, that a
> decent window manager should be configurable in this
> regard (like sawfish for example is), I am quite fond
> of blackbox, which has all three alt-clicks hardcoded
> to move/raise-lower/resize. 
> 
>   "Blackbox follows the rules and assumptions set forth in the 
>   Inter-Client Communications Conventions Manual (ICCCM) as  
>   closely as possible (this is a work in progress, some of the 
>   colormap handling is still unsupported). Blackbox isn't FULLY
>   ICCCM compliant because of the explicit key grabs (also known
>   as HotKeys) it provides to simplify operation."
>   (http://blackbox.alug.org/)
> 
> Unfourtunatly PD doesn't think of Alt-Gr as just another Alt-Key, so I
> could not use this key instead, becaus to blackbox Alt-Gr isn't Alt, too.
> 
> bye,
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