[PD] window managers and keybindings

[Christian Klippel]

hi miller,

alt-gr is the alt-key on the right side of the space bar.
its the one used to get, for example, the @ symbol (alt-gr + q)

greets,

chris

Am Sonntag,  2. Dezember 2001 22:03 schrieb Miller Puckette:
> So I get the impression I should confine myself to ctrl, shift, and alt-gr
> keys as mouse click modifiers... just one question: what's "alt-gr"???  I
> can't find one on any ofthe keyboards here...
>
> thanks
> Miller
>
> On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 12:27:18PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> > Christian Klippel hat gesagt: // Christian Klippel wrote:
> > > forgot to metion in my last mail that in most windowmanagers
> > > alt-somewhat combos always belong to either the wm or to the
> > > used toolkit/gui-kit (for example to access menu entrys and the like)
> > > to have "good" keybindings in an application, its better to use the
> > > shift, ctrl, or alt-gr key(s) in combination with the mouse or other
> > > keys. simple to remeber : anything with an alt-key belongs somehow to
> > > the gui-kit.......
> > > at least i dont know any shift/ctrl-click combinations that belong to a
> > > wm/gui-kit directly.
> >
> > I would like it that way, too. Altough I think, that a
> > decent window manager should be configurable in this
> > regard (like sawfish for example is), I am quite fond
> > of blackbox, which has all three alt-clicks hardcoded
> > to move/raise-lower/resize.
> >
> >   "Blackbox follows the rules and assumptions set forth in the
> >   Inter-Client Communications Conventions Manual (ICCCM) as
> >   closely as possible (this is a work in progress, some of the
> >   colormap handling is still unsupported). Blackbox isn't FULLY
> >   ICCCM compliant because of the explicit key grabs (also known
> >   as HotKeys) it provides to simplify operation."
> >   (http://blackbox.alug.org/)
> >
> > Unfourtunatly PD doesn't think of Alt-Gr as just another Alt-Key, so I
> > could not use this key instead, becaus to blackbox Alt-Gr isn't Alt, too.
> >
> > bye,
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