[PD] pd-gui wishlist

mark mark at junklight.com
Wed Apr 24 11:31:34 CEST 2002


I don't know how easy it is with TK but in most
GUI Frameworks  its easy - it took 10 minutes or
less to add to vst~

cheers

mark

-----Original Message-----
From: martin pi [mailto:pi at attacksyour.net]
Sent: 24 April 2002 10:27
To: mark
Cc: 'Yves Degoyon'; 'Pure Data'
Subject: RE: [PD] pd-gui wishlist




> comments add to that. I would add one thing - windows
> should remember where you put them last I think.
> A lot of other things work that way.


this should be put in the bowl labeled "very very
important".

martin



>
> cheers
>
> mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: martin pi [mailto:pi at attacksyour.net]
> Sent: 24 April 2002 10:16
> To: mark
> Cc: 'Yves Degoyon'; 'Pure Data'
> Subject: RE: [PD] pd-gui wishlist
>
>
>
>
> sorry to get so boldly into the way, yet this
> pseudo_3d madnesses that grasp all "modern" user
> interfaces are not the right way in my
> opinion. keep it plain and logical. the main
> functionallity needed (at the gui part) are:
>
> - speed and stability
> - antialiasing of fonts & lines
> - maybe layers would be interesting
> - automatic placement of main window on
> top/bottom/left/wherever (but always at the same
> place and not in the center of the screen)
>
> what makes pd so percepted unstable in the use is
> the slight delay in reaction in my opinion. but
> that is caused by the network-seperated approach
> of gui & "server".
>
> the foretellable placement of the main window
> would be very nice at the development stage of
> externals - currently im am always make-ing and
> the firing up pd and the closing [ and sometimes
> finding ] of the main window gets on my nerves.
>
> after all: why should a button on my 2d screen be
> 2,5d like in pseudo 3d?
>
> martin
>
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, mark wrote:
>
> > To be honest I am not looking for anything fancy - just
> > a bit pseudo 3d'ness perhaps - the odd shadow on a box
> > makes a big difference apperance wise.
> >
> > mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yves Degoyon [mailto:ydegoyon at free.fr]
> > Sent: 23 April 2002 16:48
> > To: pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at
> > Cc: 'Pure Data'
> > Subject: Re: [PD] pd-gui wishlist
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Frank Barknecht wrote:
> >
> > Hi,mark hat gesagt: // mark wrote:
> > I know its boring but the main thing I would like from the GUI is for it
> to
> > look nicer - Jmax despite not doing half the things I want it to looks
> > fantastic and is nice to use.
> > Yes, but as it's wishing time ;) I would also like the PD gui to
befaster.
> > Some patches, especially those with lots of number boxes, runa lot
faster
> > when pd is started with -noguiciao,
> > speaking of light-speed interfaces, java is certainly  not the way.
> > and if you like a lot of decorations ( which i don't,
> > i'd rather a pure interface ), you're not going in that way neither.
> >
> > about decorations, Tcl/Tk is not a limitation for that,
> > latest relesases includes transparency, it doesn't do
> > 3D-accelerated graohics, ok .... but do we use it outside of Gem ? ? ?
> >
> > about tool tips poping up, i hope it was only meant for edition mode,
> > in performance mode, it would be an impediment.
> >
> > you might be surprised i dislike useless decorations, knowing
> > i did some graphical externs, but heavy graphic operations
> > for these objects are launched at patch loading time
> > or in the background.
> >
> > i'm not sure it's useful to update numbers or sliders each 1/1000
second.
> >
> > yvotchka.
> > Unauthorized pd
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> martin pi
> attacksyour.net/pi
>
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>
> sil.at
>
>
>


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