hi Juha, forgive my dumbness, but do you mean, that when sending a `read ...' message to a [soundfiler], the actual message sent should be a list? K. Juha Vehvil?inen wrote: ... > so, to repeat myself in Pd-jargon: wouldn't it make sense to give > messages with text the selecton "symbol" and messages with white > space the selector "list"?