[PD] test24 box size

[Andre Schmidt]

hi miller,

as i said before i would LOVE to do fontz for PD. they would be BITMAP fonts
so they would be better to calculate !!!

the attachment is a test that i've made today... (pd0.35-test23)

left; my "new courier new" bitmap 6x11pix
middle; my fav "noname" bitmap 6x11pix
right; original ms "courier new" truetype 10pt

cheers
-andre
btw. is that a dumm idea to make numbers bold ?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Miller Puckette" <mpuckett at man104-1.ucsd.edu>
To: "Krzysztof Czaja" <czaja at chopin.edu.pl>
Cc: "Andre Schmidt" <andre at vju.info>; "PD-LiST" <pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at>
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] test24 box size


> OK... actually I was trying to save a couple of pixels to make everything
a
> bit more compact.  But it seems this was misguided.
>
> I don't know to what extent one can count on font metrics either... I
> suppose I'll just have to try this.
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
> On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 01:57:43PM +0200, Krzysztof Czaja wrote:
> > hi Andre... and Miller,
> >
> > I am getting the same result with out-of-the-box courier font!
> >
> > The change in test24 is to have the top margin in object boxes, i.e.
> > the top border/text separation (#defined as TMARGIN in g_rtext.c),
> > one pixel high, instead of three pixel as in the previous versions.
> > Apparently this is an attempt to somehow unify the look of text
> > objects, atoms and nbxes...
> >
> > Well, what I think is this.  There should be two pixels of top
> > margin (an extra pixel for the inlets), and perhaps a bit more
> > flexible dealing with the bottom margin in gatoms -- symbol gatom
> > need to be spaced just like any text object box (two pixels of
> > bottom margin), while number gatoms need to subtract -descent
> > value taken from the font metrics and add the 2-pixel margins,
> > instead of using full -linespace plus 1-pixel top and 0-pixel
> > bottom margins.
> >
> > But maybe I should keep quiet, because I have no idea whether one
> > can actually rely on values returned by "font metrics" command...?
> >
> > Krzysztof
> >
> > Andre Schmidt wrote:
> > ...
> >  > i was designing a minifont for pd [fontmatrix 5x7pixel] as i updated
to
> >  > pd0.35-test24 i saw this... please, make the boxes how they where !
> >  > because (ms)courier font has much empty space [hardcoded] over the
font
> >  > it's not so noticable as with this font...
> >
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