[PD] test24 box size

[Miller Puckette]

Hi Andre,

I haven't looked closely enough at your proposal... are you saying it's
possible to make screen fonts which wil work the same on any OS?  That would
be the cat's meow if it's doable!

cheers
Miller

On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 06:14:23PM +0200, Andre Schmidt wrote:
> hi miller,
> 
> as i said before i would LOVE to do fontz for PD. they would be BITMAP fonts
> so they would be better to calculate !!!
> 
> the attachment is a test that i've made today... (pd0.35-test23)
> 
> left; my "new courier new" bitmap 6x11pix
> middle; my fav "noname" bitmap 6x11pix
> right; original ms "courier new" truetype 10pt
> 
> cheers
> -andre
> btw. is that a dumm idea to make numbers bold ?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Miller Puckette" <mpuckett at man104-1.ucsd.edu>
> To: "Krzysztof Czaja" <czaja at chopin.edu.pl>
> Cc: "Andre Schmidt" <andre at vju.info>; "PD-LiST" <pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at>
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 5:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [PD] test24 box size
> 
> 
> > OK... actually I was trying to save a couple of pixels to make everything
> a
> > bit more compact.  But it seems this was misguided.
> >
> > I don't know to what extent one can count on font metrics either... I
> > suppose I'll just have to try this.
> >
> > cheers
> > Miller
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 01:57:43PM +0200, Krzysztof Czaja wrote:
> > > hi Andre... and Miller,
> > >
> > > I am getting the same result with out-of-the-box courier font!
> > >
> > > The change in test24 is to have the top margin in object boxes, i.e.
> > > the top border/text separation (#defined as TMARGIN in g_rtext.c),
> > > one pixel high, instead of three pixel as in the previous versions.
> > > Apparently this is an attempt to somehow unify the look of text
> > > objects, atoms and nbxes...
> > >
> > > Well, what I think is this.  There should be two pixels of top
> > > margin (an extra pixel for the inlets), and perhaps a bit more
> > > flexible dealing with the bottom margin in gatoms -- symbol gatom
> > > need to be spaced just like any text object box (two pixels of
> > > bottom margin), while number gatoms need to subtract -descent
> > > value taken from the font metrics and add the 2-pixel margins,
> > > instead of using full -linespace plus 1-pixel top and 0-pixel
> > > bottom margins.
> > >
> > > But maybe I should keep quiet, because I have no idea whether one
> > > can actually rely on values returned by "font metrics" command...?
> > >
> > > Krzysztof
> > >
> > > Andre Schmidt wrote:
> > > ...
> > >  > i was designing a minifont for pd [fontmatrix 5x7pixel] as i updated
> to
> > >  > pd0.35-test24 i saw this... please, make the boxes how they where !
> > >  > because (ms)courier font has much empty space [hardcoded] over the
> font
> > >  > it's not so noticable as with this font...
> > >