Hi list, hi Olaf, I have this patch where I use maphash (many of them, in fact). When I first open the patch it says maphash <my_arguments> couldn't create and, obviously, the objects are not activated. Then i close the patch, reopen it and everything is fine. Not a big problem if I remeber to open the patch twice after quitting pd. But... -- ./MiS Michal Seta