[PD] [inlet], [outlet].

[pix]

by the way, when developers say something like "the order is random", it
doesn't really mean random in the traditional sense, it means
"unspecified". sure, it will have some order, and it might even be
repeatable, but given that it isn't easy to find out what that order is
just by looking at the rendered patch (assuming you don't enjoy looking at
the .pd contents directly), and that it takes an inordinate amount of
effort (or dumb luck) to get the order you want using this method, the
resulting order is considered "random".

and perhaps the fact that describing something as random is supposed to
make people _less_ inclined to use it, says something interesting about
developers in general ;)

if someone has been relying on this "random" order, i would suggest they
have been exploiting a bug and should expect their patches to break in
later versions.

just the way i'm expecting nqpoly to break any version now ;)

pix.

On Wed, 7 May 2003 09:11:17 +0200
"Thomas Grill" <t.grill at gmx.net> wrote:

> > (and please no change to the order of messages from "in_the
> _order_created"
> > to "left_to_right" in the patch. in my early patches i never used
> trigger...
> > and i prefer this to max-style)
> 
> Uh oh. Ok, it's personal taste which style to prefer, but how would you
> change things in the patch a year after you have created it?
> You'd have to recreate all connections in the new order. This i find
> very tiring.
> To my mind it's extremely important to see (in which way ever) instantly
> how the order is. In this sense i would really like to have the Max
> style also for PD.
> 
> best greetings,
> Thomas
> 
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