[PD] suggestion about graph on parent to the developers

Michael Hackl hackl at plankton.net
Tue Jun 24 11:53:10 CEST 2003


for me it would be the easiest to have the part of the subpatch drawn
that starts on the upper left corner and ends at the most right
positioned displayable object and the lowest displayable object. The
render size could be 1 on 1, if the parent text is larger than this the
rest ist filled up with white.
This solution would prevent doing all the ratio-calculating stuff for
the developer side and the quite ennoying fine-tuning for the


PS. at the moment I think of a very simple application that moves all
objects that cannot be displayed on parent to the upper left corner
(excpet x-position of inlets and outlets). So it could clean up the
patch for displaying and is really easy done on the pd-files.

PPS: GOGOP rocks for modular control-patch-development

Am Mon, 2003-06-23 um 21.10 schrieb Miller Puckette:
> Good idea... there could be some new "frame" object, which, if you had one
> in a patcher, would make the parent morph into a panel containing whatever
> was in the frame.  This would make it easy to throw comments around too.
> One slight complication is how the parent text should be dealt with
> (such as "pd my-graphic-subpatch").  If that text is larger than the
> box, I suppose the thing is just to extent the right edge of the
> box to hold the text.
> Perhaps needless to say, the reason I've held off on doing something like
> this so far is fear of doing it wrong and being stuck keeping everything
> compatible.  The good news is, that with the current scheme, the "frame"
> could just default to the whole window area so that I could introduce
> the frame in an easy-to-manage, backward-compatible way.
> cheers
> Miller
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 01:22:44PM -0500, Mark Khemma wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > 	I don't know if this is possible (because my pd development skills
> > are null), but is there a way for you developers to code a specific box
> > which the sliders/bangs/etc could be set in so that when you look at the
> > parent abstraction, it will look exactly like how you set it up in the
> > child rather than appearing all scrunched up? The box could set the
> > pixel dimensions of the parent object in some way, and things that the
> > user didn't want to show in the parent could be left outside of the box.
> > If it could be done then the pd-design/layout would look much cleaner and
> > much more flexible. I hope this makes sense to more than just me.
> > -Mark .K
> > 
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