[PD] suggestion about graph on parent to the developers

[Mark Khemma]

On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Miller Puckette wrote:

> Good idea... there could be some new "frame" object, which, if you had one
> in a patcher, would make the parent morph into a panel containing whatever
> was in the frame.  This would make it easy to throw comments around too.

Do you think it would be possible to nest "frames" within frames? so say
you create an graphical adsr subpatch which has vsliders set next to each
other. Then you create another patch (that is also set for GOP)which takes
an the graphical adsr for both left and right speakers and say add a
graphical filter to it as well to make one large graphical patch.

___________________________________________________________
|							|
| __gadsr___________	__gadsr___________	filter_ |
| | # #  #    #	   |	| # #  #    #	 |	|0  0 |	|
| | # #	 #    #	   |	| # #  #    #	 |	|     |	|
| | # #  #    #	   |	| # #  #    #	 |	|0  0 | |
| |_#_#__#____#____|    |_#_#_ #____#____|      |_____| |
|	left			right		lp/hp	|
|_______________________________________________________|

So I suppose if the frame object could fixed the pixel dimensions of the
subpatch on the parent then nestings frames could be possible and not
bunch up the graph like it does now.

god I wish I had time to help develop pd!!
-Mark .k

>
> One slight complication is how the parent text should be dealt with
> (such as "pd my-graphic-subpatch").  If that text is larger than the
> box, I suppose the thing is just to extent the right edge of the
> box to hold the text.
>
> Perhaps needless to say, the reason I've held off on doing something like
> this so far is fear of doing it wrong and being stuck keeping everything
> compatible.  The good news is, that with the current scheme, the "frame"
> could just default to the whole window area so that I could introduce
> the frame in an easy-to-manage, backward-compatible way.
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 01:22:44PM -0500, Mark Khemma wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > 	I don't know if this is possible (because my pd development skills
> > are null), but is there a way for you developers to code a specific box
> > which the sliders/bangs/etc could be set in so that when you look at the
> > parent abstraction, it will look exactly like how you set it up in the
> > child rather than appearing all scrunched up? The box could set the
> > pixel dimensions of the parent object in some way, and things that the
> > user didn't want to show in the parent could be left outside of the box.
> > If it could be done then the pd-design/layout would look much cleaner and
> > much more flexible. I hope this makes sense to more than just me.
> > -Mark .K
> >
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