[PD] Pd vs. MAX

J. Scott Hildebrand jshildebrand at ucdavis.edu
Tue Jul 1 01:23:46 CEST 2003


Thomas and everybody else who's interested,

So what do you use the most and why?

Here are some specific questions based on what you wrote:

How does the Pd GriPd system compare to the patcher system for creating a
good GUI inside of MAX/MSP? (AND is it possible in the future to use Pd as
a signal processor in larger programs created with, for instance Fl/Tck in
Linux or Visual C++ or Borland in Windows? It would be nice to use the
processing and programming paradigm of Pd but interact with it via a
pretty GUI in a larger standalone program.)

How does GEM compare to Jitter?






On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Thomas Grill wrote:

> Hi,
> i've been using Max/MSP and PD for quite a while now and i see the following
> points:
>
> Max:
> - very good documentation and tutorials
> - good patcher system which lets you create real user interfaces
> - good configurable audio system with low latency
> - OS9 version is quite unstable (or is (was!) it OS9?), OSX version is quite
> ok.
> - makes use of AltiVec on PPC
> - Jitter is great
>
> PD:
> - it's free and open source
> - very low latency for linux
> - audio and midi system is often complicated to configure
> - really bad user interface and documentation
>
> The extendibility is in principle the same, although Max has more (but
> mostly commercial) packages.
> The support (due to the mailing lists) is equally good.
>
> jMax has not had much success as it has been unstable and very sluggish due
> to its Java user interface. Version 4 has a different API which makes all
> externals written for older versions incompatible. However, it seems that
> the new jMax API is quite well-designed and can make use of multiple
> processors.
>
> best greetings,
> Thomas
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J. Scott Hildebrand" <jshildebrand at ucdavis.edu>
> To: <pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at>
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:43 PM
> Subject: [PD] Pd vs. MAX
>
>
> >
> >      right now i'm writing a report on the effectiveness of Pd for use in
> > spatial audio. i'm also somewhat comparing it to its competition; csound,
> > reaktor, and of course the various versions of MAX. it's been very hard
> > trying to understand the current state of things, for example which is
> > more widely used and has more people working on it?
> >
> >      i've read a lot about the various incarnations of MAX including jMAX,
> > MAX/MSP, Pd, and all the old stuff like MAX/Opcode, MAX/FTS, Patcher, ISPW
> > stuff, etc.
> >
> >      have any of you tried several different things and have any useful
> > comparison info? how are the expansions in jMAX and MAX/MSP comparable to
> > the expansions in Pd like GEM and GriPD? thanks,
> >
> > scott
> >
> >
> >
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