[PD] Pd and GEM installation woes

[Josh Steiner]

Scott,

Some good ideas, but if you feel so strongly about this stuff, put your 
money where you mouth is.  This is an *all* volenteer community, its not 
to to lack of will but do to lack of time that this stuff isnt done.  
there are free installation tool packages for windows that would only 
take an afternoon to learn and make a pd installer.  the key here is 
follow through, its going to take keeping up with packages as they 
change (though just syncing with the pd-externals package at 
sourceforge.net solve 95% of that for you).

think about who you are talking to and how your vulgarity reflects on 
your message.

-josh

J. Scott Hildebrand wrote:

>     i consider myself pretty technically able. i've only started VC++ in
>windows so that's new territory for me, but i have a few years experience
>in linux programming, just school stuff though (nothing very deep).
>
>     getting GEM to work in either platform has been fucking hell. i
>realize it's a good idea to have every extention to Pd made available
>separately, but if I CAN'T GET THIS SHIT TO WORK, you can sure as hell
>believe that casual users won't be able to. i think this is all good
>software but it's just too hard to set up. i believe this stuff can go
>really far and its user base can get bigger and bigger, but there needs to
>be some ease-of-installation improvements.
>
>     for windows how about having an EXE file that installs everything
>like a typical program would? i'm talking about Pd, GEM, all the
>extentions like GrIPD, IEMLIB, GGEE, and ZEXY. still make the individual
>parts available to install the old way as well... for purposes unknown and
>the obvious one of portability; if you want to run pd on a PDA or
>something and definitely don't need other useless stuff.
>
>     for macOS have a same sort of EXE and do the same stuff in linux via
>the typical .compile and .configure stuff. good idea???? YES!!! do it! i
>would except i don't know how.
>
>your friendly but irritated visionary,
>
>scott
>
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