hi, I cannot reproduce this on linux with 0-37-0 but I read: > #X obj 7 43 hsl 150 12 0.32 32 1 0 $0-sgdfx_mdly_outvol $0-gdfx_mdly_outvol ^^ this should read \$0-foo in a saved patch ... weird regards, x -- chris at lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com)