[PD] Re: PD-list digest, Vol 1 #763 - 17 msgs

Oskar Lissheim-Boëthius oskar at avocade.com
Wed Nov 12 20:41:37 CET 2003


Hey,

Sorry, just want to praise Jitter a bit. Tried the demo today. Great 
stuff! Everyone who haven't tried it yet, go to www.cycling74.com and 
download it. Try it. Then hand over that rectangular piece of plastic 
you keep in your pocket.

Great list. Thanks for a lot of good info!

PS. Jitter is the video add-on-part of MaxMSP.

Yours cincerely,

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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>    1. Re: Pd minimum requirements (Emmanuel Rio)
>    2. Re: pure-data.org downloads (L Hyland)
>    3. Re: Re: Some VASP questions (Thomas Grill)
>    4. vasp, segfault (CK)
>    5. Re: vasp, segfault (Thomas Grill)
>    6. Re: vasp, segfault (CK)
>    7. Re: vasp, segfault (Thomas Grill)
>    8. Re: vasp, segfault (Thomas Grill)
>    9. sending notes OSC (Adrian deCleir)
>   10. Re: Question (IOhannes zmoelnig)
>   11. Re: sending notes OSC (CK)
>   12. RE: sending notes OSC (Adrian deCleir)
>   13. RE: sending notes OSC (Adrian deCleir)
>   14. Re: sending notes OSC (CK)
>   15. processing text (Martin Dupras)
>   16. Re: processing text (IOhannes zmoelnig)
>   17. Re: processing text (IOhannes zmoelnig)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:03:13 +0100
> From: Emmanuel Rio <emmanuel.rio at m4x.org>
> To:  pd-list at iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] Pd minimum requirements
>
> 	Hi,
>
> 	I managed to run PD (version 0.36-0) on a Toshiba Satellite 100CS,=20
> which is a laptop PC. Main specs :
> - Pentium I (75 Mhz)
> - 810 MB Hard Disk
> - 8 MB RAM
> - Windows 95
> 	Since it doesn't have any multimedia card, I could only test 
> control=20
> stuff (actually, a metro and a bang). With a PCMCIA ethernet card I=20
> have, I could also test a netsend/netreceive connection with my 
> current=20
> laptop (which has audio/midi capabilies). It works. I see two=20
> configurations for which it could be usefull :
> - for people who want to learn basics of control/programming approach 
> in =
> PD.
> - for a remote/shared control (via the network) of a "normal" 
> multimedia =
> PD.
>
> 	Just my 2 euro cents,
>
> 	Emmanuel
> --=20
> Emmanuel Rio - 6, rue Cr=E9mieux, 75012 Paris
>                 t=E9l=E9phone:01.44.73.96.32
>                 mailto:emmanuel.rio at m4x.org
>                 http://emmanuel.rio.free.fr/
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> From: "L Hyland" <hylandl at forwind.net>
> To: <pd-list at iem.at>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:54:19 +0100
> Subject: [PD] Re: pure-data.org downloads
>
>> I think it should be good practice everywhere users upload something,
>> to try to download it once afterwards. Then the user would've seen
>> that something must have gone wrong.
>
> here, here...
> I have just had this problem with the syncgrain~ external  I was 
> whinging
> about all last week.
> The  ~  was missing in the .dll file I downloaded (from 
> www.audionerd.com)
> and therefore wasn't working. I know this is undoubtedly very obvious 
> to
> more seasoned pders but for someone still cluelessly weaning 
> themselves off
> commercial software it's not; even if it were, mucking about with 
> files that
> one assumes to be 'in order' is normally not advisable as the chances 
> of
> wreaking even more havoc are high... The 'download once test' would 
> save a
> lot of hair-tearing and would probably also result in less people like
> myself clogging up the mailing list with irratating questions!
>
> L
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> From: "Thomas Grill" <t.grill at gmx.net>
> To: "Larry Troxler" <lt at westnet.com>, "PD List" <pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Re: Some VASP questions
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:51:51 +0100
>
>>> Not really. Do you get those messages from my attached patch or from
>>> another one?
>>
>> From the attached patch. However, it does not happen all the time, 
>> and so
> far
>> I haven't found a sequence that reliably reproduces the problem.
>>
>> First question, which would pre-empt the rest of this message: are 
>> there
> any
>> bug fixes between 0.36-devel and 0.37 that I'm missing that could 
>> relate
> to
>> this?
>
> There have been some changes in the threading model that could have an
> influence.
> To see if the threading is buggy you could try to remove all the detach
> flags (maybe it's best to do that in the patcher text file) and try 
> again.
>
>>
>> Next, I haven't looked at the source yet to see what generates this
> message.
>
> You will have hard times to debug the VASP source if you're not 
> familiar
> with it
>
>> The only corelation I suspect (and I could be easily be wrong about 
>> this,
> it's
>> just a vague suspicion), is that this is somehow an indirect artifact 
>> of
> the
>> current TK bug (where you get a message about "bad screen distances",
>> sometimes followed by "illegal command name", when loading a patch or
> moving
>> a graph). However I can't imagine what the connection might be, and I
> suspect
>> it could be just a coincidence.
>
> I don't think it's related to that - it looks like a genuine VASP bug.
>
>
> best greetings,
> Thomas
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> From: CK <x at meta.lo-res.org>
> To: pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:59:11 +0100 (CET)
> Subject: [PD] vasp, segfault
>
> hi thomas and the rest,
>
> I've just revisited vasp but I run into lots of trouble, flext and
> vasp cvs update today morning didn't help much whatever example I
> try I get several
>
>> convolve 1 0 27 0 (vasp.frames?->text) connection failed
>> convolve 5 0 20 0 (text->vasp.radio) connection failed
>> convolve 22 0 26 0 (text->text) connection failed
>> convolve 24 0 22 0 (canvas->text) connection failed
>> convolve 25 0 22 1 (canvas->text) connection failed
> .
> .
>
> and similar messages, whatever I try out immediately segfaults
> that is debian-ppc unstable on a g4
>
> any hints ?
>
> x
>
> -- 
> chris at lo-res.org	Postmodernism is german romanticism with better
> http://pilot.fm/	special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com)
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "Thomas Grill" <t.grill at gmx.net>
> To: "CK" <x at meta.lo-res.org>, <pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at>
> Subject: Re: [PD] vasp, segfault
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:31:23 +0100
>
> Hi Chris,
> does this mean that you can't create any vasp object? ( i assume the 
> vasp
> library does load normally)
>
> The combination of linux and PPC is completely untested, but _should_
> nevertheless work.
> I'll see what could go wrong but i'm not sure if i have a solution 
> shortly.
>
> greetings,
> T
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "CK" <x at meta.lo-res.org>
> To: <pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:59 AM
> Subject: [PD] vasp, segfault
>
>
>> hi thomas and the rest,
>>
>> I've just revisited vasp but I run into lots of trouble, flext and
>> vasp cvs update today morning didn't help much whatever example I
>> try I get several
>>
>>> convolve 1 0 27 0 (vasp.frames?->text) connection failed
>>> convolve 5 0 20 0 (text->vasp.radio) connection failed
>>> convolve 22 0 26 0 (text->text) connection failed
>>> convolve 24 0 22 0 (canvas->text) connection failed
>>> convolve 25 0 22 1 (canvas->text) connection failed
>> .
>> .
>>
>> and similar messages, whatever I try out immediately segfaults
>> that is debian-ppc unstable on a g4
>>
>> any hints ?
>>
>> x
>>
>> -- 
>> chris at lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better
>> http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com)
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PD-list mailing list
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>>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> From: CK <x at meta.lo-res.org>
> Subject: Re: [PD] vasp, segfault
> To: t.grill at gmx.net (Thomas Grill)
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:51:20 +0100 (CET)
> Cc: pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at
>
> hi thomas,
>
> I read:
>> does this mean that you can't create any vasp object? ( i assume the 
>> vasp
>> library does load normally)
>
> no, I can load the lib and most of the objects (I probably missed some
> abstraction path) generate fine, I can also use a lot of the help stuff
> in vasp/pd but all the stuff in vasp/pd_ex it tested causes a segfault
>
> [...]
>
>> I'll see what could go wrong but i'm not sure if i have a solution 
>> shortly.
>
> I'll try to recompile today afternoon with -g (pd && flext && vasp) and
> see if gdb reveals sth. useful (if I find the time).
>
> regards,
>
> x
>
> -- 
> chris at lo-res.org	Postmodernism is german romanticism with better
> http://pilot.fm/	special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com)
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: "Thomas Grill" <t.grill at gmx.net>
> To: "CK" <x at meta.lo-res.org>
> Cc: <pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at>
> Subject: Re: [PD] vasp, segfault
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:24:15 +0100
>
>> no, I can load the lib and most of the objects (I probably missed some
>> abstraction path) generate fine, I can also use a lot of the help 
>> stuff
>> in vasp/pd but all the stuff in vasp/pd_ex it tested causes a segfault
>
> It would be helpful if you could list the vasp objects that don't load.
> The problem with the pd_ex examples is that they are quite complex, so 
> a
> error could be hidden anywhere. Maybe you could construct a simple 
> patch
> that segfaults?
>
> greetings,
> Thomas
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: "Thomas Grill" <t.grill at gmx.net>
> To: "CK" <x at meta.lo-res.org>
> Cc: "pd" <pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at>
> Subject: Re: [PD] vasp, segfault
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:45:34 +0100
>
> Hi,
> i can indeed reproduce some misbehavior with the examples in linux/x86,
> although i don't know whether it's the same that you found... seems 
> like i
> broke something with the latest changes to flext or vasp.
> I'll look into it shortly.
>
> best greetings,
> Thomas
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "CK" <x at meta.lo-res.org>
> To: "Thomas Grill" <t.grill at gmx.net>
> Cc: <pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [PD] vasp, segfault
>
>
>> hi thomas,
>>
>> I read:
>>> does this mean that you can't create any vasp object? ( i assume the
> vasp
>>> library does load normally)
>>
>> no, I can load the lib and most of the objects (I probably missed some
>> abstraction path) generate fine, I can also use a lot of the help 
>> stuff
>> in vasp/pd but all the stuff in vasp/pd_ex it tested causes a segfault
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> I'll see what could go wrong but i'm not sure if i have a solution
> shortly.
>>
>> I'll try to recompile today afternoon with -g (pd && flext && vasp) 
>> and
>> see if gdb reveals sth. useful (if I find the time).
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> x
>>
>> -- 
>> chris at lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better
>> http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com)
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: Adrian deCleir  <0031259 at student.ul.ie>
> To: "'PD-list at iem.at'" <PD-list at iem.at>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:22:35 -0000
> Subject: [PD] sending notes OSC
>
> Hi I know this is a very simple question but I cant find any tutorials 
> to
> work on , and there's hardly any examples ppl have done that are 
> available,
> but I manage to send text characters, numbers or whatever to other IP
> addresses using 'send' in a message box and joining it to sendOSC but 
> how do
> you send sound, I've a little osc~ set up where I can hear my own 
> sound on
> my pc but I dont know what the object or message is to send it to 
> another IP
> address, cheers for the help
> Adrian
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:54:20 +0100
> From: IOhannes zmoelnig <zmoelnig at iem.kug.ac.at>
> To: Michael Gschiel <gschiel at kfs.oeaw.ac.at>
> CC:  PD-list at iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] Question
>
> Michael Gschiel wrote:
>> Is it possible to show two different gemwin in one patch??
>>
>> thanks mike
>
> with the current (<=0.87) and upcoming (0.888) releases: no
>
> mfg.asd.r
> IOhannes
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> From: CK <x at meta.lo-res.org>
> Subject: Re: [PD] sending notes OSC
> To: 0031259 at student.ul.ie (Adrian deCleir)
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:21:01 +0100 (CET)
> Cc: PD-list at iem.at ('PD-list at iem.at')
>
> hi adrian,
>
> I read:
>> but I manage to send text characters, numbers or whatever to other IP
>> addresses using 'send' in a message box and joining it to sendOSC but 
>> how do
>> you send sound,
>
> OSC is a control protocol not meant for streaming sound data in a 
> reasonable
> amount of time (though you could of course use:
>
> [tabread]
>  |
> [pd yourOSCsender]
>  .
>  . (imagine powerpoint internet cloud here)
>  .
> [pd yourOSCreceiver]
>  |
> [tabwrite]
>
> )
>
>> I've a little osc~ set up where I can hear my own sound on
>> my pc but I dont know what the object or message is to send it to 
>> another IP
>
> well in pd you could always look into the pd internal messages docs
> and clone your patch at the other end but I don't think that's what
> you want. again: OSC != streaming it was designed as a more versatile,
> contemporary, typed, urlstyle , physical layer independent midi
> replacement see: http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/
>
> HTH
>
> x
>
> -- 
> chris at lo-res.org	Postmodernism is german romanticism with better
> http://pilot.fm/	special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com)
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> From: Adrian deCleir  <0031259 at student.ul.ie>
> To: 'CK' <x at meta.lo-res.org>
> Cc: "'PD-list at iem.at'" <PD-list at iem.at>
> Subject: RE: [PD] sending notes OSC
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:42:43 -0000
>
> do you if it might be able to be done using netsend or anything no?
> tabread doesnt seem to work
>
> cheers anyway
> adrian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CK [mailto:x at meta.lo-res.org]
> Sent: 12 November 2003 15:21
> To: 0031259 at student.ul.ie
> Cc: PD-list at iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] sending notes OSC
>
>
> hi adrian,
>
> I read:
>> but I manage to send text characters, numbers or whatever to other IP
>> addresses using 'send' in a message box and joining it to sendOSC but 
>> how
> do
>> you send sound,
>
> OSC is a control protocol not meant for streaming sound data in a 
> reasonable
> amount of time (though you could of course use:
>
> [tabread]
>  |
> [pd yourOSCsender]
>  .
>  . (imagine powerpoint internet cloud here)
>  .
> [pd yourOSCreceiver]
>  |
> [tabwrite]
>
> )
>
>> I've a little osc~ set up where I can hear my own sound on
>> my pc but I dont know what the object or message is to send it to 
>> another
> IP
>
> well in pd you could always look into the pd internal messages docs
> and clone your patch at the other end but I don't think that's what
> you want. again: OSC != streaming it was designed as a more versatile,
> contemporary, typed, urlstyle , physical layer independent midi
> replacement see: http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/
>
> HTH
>
> x
>
> -- 
> chris at lo-res.org	Postmodernism is german romanticism with better
> http://pilot.fm/	special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com)
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> From: Adrian deCleir  <0031259 at student.ul.ie>
> To: 'CK' <x at meta.lo-res.org>
> Cc: PD-list at iem.at
> Subject: RE: [PD] sending notes OSC
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:21:29 -0000
>
> just one more thing, sorry for bothering, but in the end Im actually 
> going
> to be streaming midi , I just thought Id try getting it working with 
> the
> osc~
> do you know of any objects that will help me on my way no?
> oggcast and them seem to be for actual audio not midi
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CK [mailto:x at meta.lo-res.org]
> Sent: 12 November 2003 15:43
> To: 0031259 at student.ul.ie
> Subject: Re: [PD] sending notes OSC
>
>
> I read:
>> do you if it might be able to be done using netsend or anything no?
>> tabread doesnt seem to work
>
> if you really wan't to stream audio you should take a look at the
> various *mp3*, *ogg*cast, *shout*cast externals but I'm no expert
> on that.
>
> regards,
>
> x
>
> -- 
> chris at lo-res.org	Postmodernism is german romanticism with better
> http://pilot.fm/	special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com)
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> From: CK <x at meta.lo-res.org>
> Subject: Re: [PD] sending notes OSC
> To: 0031259 at student.ul.ie (Adrian deCleir)
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:07:12 +0100 (CET)
> Cc: PD-list at iem.at
>
> I read:
>> just one more thing, sorry for bothering, but in the end Im actually 
>> going
>> to be streaming midi ,
>
> ok great, finally I think I have sort of a clue what you want to do,
> so your options are:
>
> netsend - netreceive but you'll have to develop your own mini protocol
> defining what is what.
>
> OSC - just stick an OSC header and receiver to to the beginning of your
> midi message send it, parse it at the other end route it to the 
> instrument
> you want et voila
>
>> I just thought Id try getting it working with the
>> osc~
>
> still don't get it
>
> I give up,
>
> HTH
>
> x
>
> -- 
> chris at lo-res.org	Postmodernism is german romanticism with better
> http://pilot.fm/	special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com)
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> From: "Martin Dupras" <martin.dupras at uwe.ac.uk>
> To: <pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:08:00 -0000
> Subject: [PD] processing text
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to read text from textfiles in pd and display sentences 
> with =
> the text object in gem. However, I am having a few problems.=20
>
> I'm reading sentences with textefile, which works well. I read lines 
> in =
> the textfile one by one, which I want to send as lists to the text3d =
> object. What comes out of the textfile object is something like:
>
> "list the dog is asleep"
>
> which I need to convert to:
>
> "text the dog is asleep"
>
> How do I do that in pd?
>
> Two corollary questions:
>
> 1) is there an escape character that can be used in the message 
> object, =
> or otherwise a way to store the "space" character in a text object as 
> a =
> list element?
>
> 2) is there a way to count the number of elements in a list?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - martin
>
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> <STYLE></STYLE>
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm trying to read text from 
> textfiles =
> in pd and=20
> display sentences with the text object in gem. However, I am having a =
> few=20
> problems. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm reading sentences with textefile, 
> =
> which works=20
> well. I read lines in the textfile one by one, which I want to send as 
> =
> lists to=20
> the text3d object. What comes out of the textfile object is 
> something=20
> like:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"list the dog is asleep"</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>which I need to convert =
> to:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"text the dog is asleep"</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How do I do that in pd?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Two corollary questions:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1) is there an escape character that =
> can be used in=20
> the message object, or otherwise a way to store the "space" character 
> in =
> a text=20
> object as a list element?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2) is there a way to count the number 
> =
> of elements=20
> in a list?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:05:13 +0100
> From: IOhannes zmoelnig <zmoelnig at iem.kug.ac.at>
> To: Martin Dupras <martin.dupras at uwe.ac.uk>
> CC:  pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] processing text
>
> Martin Dupras wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to read text from textfiles in pd and display sentences 
>> with
>> the text object in gem. However, I am having a few problems.
>
> probably i should change the behaviour, so that lists would be
> interpreted as text too...
>
>>
>> I'm reading sentences with textefile, which works well. I read lines 
>> in
>> the textfile one by one, which I want to send as lists to the text3d
>> object. What comes out of the textfile object is something like:
>>
>> "list the dog is asleep"
>>
>> which I need to convert to:
>>
>> "text the dog is asleep"
>>
>> How do I do that in pd?
>>
>> Two corollary questions:
>>
>> 1) is there an escape character that can be used in the message 
>> object,
>> or otherwise a way to store the "space" character in a text object as 
>> a
>> list element?
> no escaping (yet?)
> but you can use [l2s] from zexy. i hate to keep pointing at zexy, but
> (for obvious reasons) it has everything i need and what is missing in 
> pd.
>
>>
>> 2) is there a way to count the number of elements in a list?
>
> [length] from (guess) zexy
>
>
> mfg.as.dr
> IOhannes
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:14:01 +0100
> From: IOhannes zmoelnig <zmoelnig at iem.kug.ac.at>
> To: Martin Dupras <martin.dupras at uwe.ac.uk>
> CC:  pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] processing text
>
> IOhannes zmoelnig wrote:
>> Martin Dupras wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to read text from textfiles in pd and display sentences
>>> with the text object in gem. However, I am having a few problems.
>>
>>
>> probably i should change the behaviour, so that lists would be
>> interpreted as text too...
>>
>
>
> i just noticed, that someone has already done this (at least in the 
> cvs)
> but my research wasn't for nothing: i have removed a constraint which
> denied the rendering of lists that started with a number.
> don't know why it was there.
>
> mfg.asd.r
> IOhannes
>
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