[PD] Pd in white on black and OSC

e skogen eskogen at usfamily.net
Thu Nov 20 04:48:29 CET 2003


> My 2 cents on PD's gui: I agree that the present gui is minimalistic, 
> but that should maybe be seen as a plus. I would give priority to pd 
> evolving into a full-featured audio/graphics/video processing 
> environment, rather that striving to look cool. 

I think it's true that Pd has always put more emphasis on technical 
features than usability features, and has gotten very powerful very 
quickly because of this. But when dragging simple GOP abstractions 
across a fullscreen slows my 750 mhz machine to a crawl, it seems like a 
technical problem just as much as a usability one.

To be honest, I have not looked at Pd's GUI code and I don't know if I'd 
be able to understand it really. Perhaps there is much that can be done 
to speed Tcl/tk up. But i'm under the impression that a replacement GUI 
is still the way to go.

I'm wondering how this would affect externals developers, though? Would 
new libraries be built to allow easy access to a new Pd GUI? Or would 
they be expected to learn the new toolkit (wx or not)?

I suppose it's a lot easier for me to criticize and ask for software 
changes when I have so little invested in the code!

> Tcl/tl is very portable 
> and feels responsive enough to me even on my old laptop (Pentium 133) 
> which is not really the best system for realtime audio. I cannot say the 
> same about wxWindows. 

You say you cannot say the same about wxWindows. Is that because you 
have had been results with wxWindows programs, or because you have not 
used wxWindows before?


-- eric




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