[PD] tight syncing of two pd machines...

B. Bogart ben at ekran.org
Tue Dec 16 15:47:46 CET 2003


I need to do some syncing, but not sample accurage, 1/60th of a second would
be sufficient I think.

Do I need to worry about jitter? What delay size is commonly needed for
sample-accurate stuff?

Thanks
b.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <hans at eds.org>
To: "joreg" <joreg at gmx.at>
Cc: "Josh Steiner" <josh at vitriolix.com>; <pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] tight syncing of two pd machines...


>
> Well, if you can get the timetag aspect of OSC working, then it would
> be good.  You just need to set the delay on the OSC timetags to be
> greater than the jitter, then it will be reliable (as reliable as your
> computer's clock).  That is, of course, depending on implementation.
> Many if not most OSC implementations do not do timetags, AFAIK.
>
> .hc
>
> On Wednesday, Dec 3, 2003, at 13:43 Europe/Brussels, joreg wrote:
>
> > halo.
> >
> > in a recent setup i had to sync a pc that generated sounds to another
> > that did the visuals. all tests with udp or tcp connections were
> > unsatisfying. the beat was not received constantly on the other
> > machine. now i do it with midi and am happy. i didn't measure anything
> > but a jitter is no longer obvious.
> >
> > osc will not be better than netsend via udp since it still uses udp.
> >
> > grkks.
> > joreg.
> >
> >
> >
> > JS> does anyone have any good experience getting *very* tight timing
> > sync
> > JS> between two computers running pd?  for my first attempt i just used
> > JS> [netsend]/[netreceive] to send a message (the number of the current
> > JS> measure) and got really nasty jitter (10's of ms).  last night i
> > banged
> > JS> out a little net latency test patch and the results were so bad i
> > JS> decided i was tired and it must be a problem with my code ;)
> >
> > JS> so... how have you achieved tight timing sync?  should i give up on
> > JS> network sync and just use a midi cable?  how about OSC?
> >
> >
> >
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