pd-render object WAS: Re: [PD] xp4pd - extreme programming over the network
hans at eds.org
Wed Dec 17 18:29:02 CET 2003
On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 16:04 Europe/Brussels, guenter geiger
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 14:20 Europe/Brussels, guenter geiger
>>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>> I have to give props to Kzrysztof Czaja for toxy. His [tot] made
>>>> quite simple. For anyone who wants to port Pd to something other
>>>> Tcl/Tk, I suggest you try toxy. It opens whole new realms of what
>>>> can do. Then there is all the other Pd contributors, but I have to
>>>> stop somewhere otherwise this email will never end.
>>> I planned porting at least parts of PD to another GUI toolkit over
>>> because tcl/tk is too slow for PDa.
>>> I hoped it could be of use for the "normal" version too. Of course
>>> tcl/tk scripting work with that is not that easily possible :(
>> Hmm, maybe you could as tigital is doing and make Tcl/Tk fast on the
>> PDA. But I have no real idea of what that would entail. It is
>> relatively straightforward for MacOS X, the changes are not throughout
> Yes, this would be a possibility. My understanding is though that
> uses float as internal datatype, then I would end up haveing to change
> too much for a simple christmas holiday task.
> I am also envisioning a extension of pd towards vector graphics, ala
> xgui but internally, this would make it possible to nicely seperate
> engine and GUI, because the drawings are not tcl commands anymore, but
> messages to a "pd-render" object.
> Well, thats all theory, I do not know how far I will get with that.
Ok, that sounds like a very cool idea, I am all for making as much of
Pd be 'Pure Data' as possible. By making more of the GUI in the realm
of Pd messages, then it would allow [widget]-like functionality with
native Pd msgs, while being GUI toolkit agnostic. But that is also
probably not a holiday task.
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