[PD] lost messages (toxy vs. pd ???)

Miller Puckette mpuckett at man104-1.ucsd.edu
Sat Jul 24 23:25:07 CEST 2004

I think the behavior should be that Pd always treat an empty list
as identical to a "bang" message -- I'll try fixing pd_list() to do this.
Because this is so central to Pd's implementation this might break
stuff in unexpected places... so I'll leave 0.37 alone and do this for


On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 06:49:45PM +0200, Tim Blechmann wrote:
> > you seem to be sending an empty list -- check if this is the case
> > with an explicit 'list' message.  This is usually a synonim for 'bang'
> > (e.g. if sent to a [print]), but not always (e.g. not for a [v], which
> > ignores it).
> wait ... if i understand it correctly, a bang is represented by either
> an empty list or a "bang" message, the function class_addbang is only
> working for the message bang... 
> "print" is also using the class_addlist function that's working for
> empty lists, too...
> for me that's a bug in the _language_ pd ... since it can take hours to
> figure that out ...
> anyway, thanks for the explanation ... tim
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