[PD] PD 0.38 test 4 released: Tcl 8.4.7

[Miller Puckette]

Hi Hans Chrostof & James.

I can't seem to get Pd running with the newest tcl/tk yet.  There's
something mysterious happening.  But after I downgraded from 8.4.7 to
8.4.4, then I discovered that actually there's a particular copy of
pd/Contents/MacOS/Wish Shell, which is different from the one compiled
in "TclTkAquaStandalone", which is the only one that works.  The others
all fail and write something mysterious to standard error at the
first call to "Tcl_Eval" in t_tkcmd.c.  If you want to see it yourselves,
I think you can just enable DEBUGCONNECT in t_Tkcmd.c and try plugging
the files from 8.4.7 standalone into the Pd  "app"...

I _think_ the magic copy of "Wish Shell" came from one of the old "package"
distributions of Tcl/Tk....

The idea of implementing a whole new file browser as a hierarchical menu
is interesting, but there's nothing specific to Pd in the idea... it
migth be a better plan to have the thing figure itself on-the-fly and propose
it as a generally useful way to browse within a specific directory tree.

Miller


On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 01:02:42AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> Works on my machine, nice.  A couple comments:
> 
> - Why Tcl/Tk 8.4.4?  Tcl/Tk 8.4.7 seems to have a lot of worthwhile  
> improvements.
> 
> - The Alt key doesn't work for me.  Tcl/Tk 8.4.7 might help?
> 
> - The Pure Documentation menu item needs to be fixed.  I think a good  
> way to solve this would be to make the Help menu a set of nested menus  
> like this:
> 
> Help-|
>      |-1.manual
>      |-2.control.examples-|
>      |                    |-00.INTRO.txt
>      |                    |-01.PART1.hello.pd
>      |                    |-...
>      |
>      |-3.audio.examples-|
>      |                  |-A00.intro.pd
>      |                  |-...
>      |
>      |-4.fft.examples-|
>      |                |-00.INTRO.txt
>      |                |-...
>      |
>      |-...
> 
> Each individual file would then be opened with menu_doc_open.  This  
> could be auto-generated from the Makefile or within Tcl with a loop.   
> It would be the same on all platforms.  Opening the manual's index.htm  
> would be easy on MacOS X, you can just {exec open index.htm} and it  
> will open the web page in the default browser.  I will do this unless  
> someone else really wants to.
> 
> .hc
> 
> 
> On Sep 2, 2004, at 9:52 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
> 
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Pd 0.38 test 4 is available on the usual,
> >
> >http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html
> >
> >The Maintosh version is now a true "application" (no console needed
> >anymore, yay!).  Thanks to all of you who helped figure out how to get
> >Mac integration going.
> >
> >Cutting text now works correctly.
> >
> >New filters are included, which I'm using for chapter 8 of the
> >long-stalled book...
> >
> >cheers
> >Miller
> >
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