[PD] [GEM]: multiple gemwin

[chris clepper]

On Sep 8, 2004, at 10:37 AM, Ivan Franco wrote:

> in fact those of you who know jitter or nato know how cool it is
> to be able to have monitors inside the patch itself. They can
> act like |print| (debugging data) only in this case with video streams.
> of course it should be complicated using a tcl/tk interface but

These are also big performance drains, which often outweighs their 
usefulness.  I don't think any of the current GEM developers are going 
to try putting a GEM window in a patcher.

> if we could just have multiple monitors floating around and picking
> part of a Gem processing stream...

This will probably be possible at some point, but there are other very 
interesting reasons for multiple render targets - things like rendering 
to surfaces and textures that we are really looking forward to having.

Also, speaking just for myself, I have no interest whatsoever in 
duplicating features from Nato, Jitter or other software at this point. 
  I find those two Max video systems flawed in both technical and 
conceptual design, and do not wish to repeat their mistakes.  The goal 
now is to incorporate designs that are fairly unique and not yet 
available in real-time artist oriented software.  You can get an idea 
of some of these directions by checking out the latest branches in CVS 
or playing with Cyrille's excellent pmpd package.  If you are really 
and truly seeking a standard A/B VJ style system then I would agree 
that GEM is probably not the best choice for such a thing, and you 
would perhaps be better served by the hundreds, if not thousands, of 
free and commercial softwares designed to do exactly that.

cgc