[PD] Re: [PD-announce] vst~ beta download

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On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 12:47:52PM -0700, Josh Steiner wrote:
> the only other hosts i use dont give you this nice raw output, so i dont 
> know.  but this is a general issues with vst's i think, for instance, in 
> flstudio when i open up a song it has remembered all the positions of 
> all the sliders/nobs of all vst's im using, plus samples loaded and 
> such.  is there some split in vst between state and performance data?

afaik, all vst params are floats (or midi-notes & CC). the .fxp/.fxb preset-file format allows for storage of arbitrary 'chunk's of binary data that can be whatever the plugin designer wants -  but i dont think you can do anything with this from any host other than saving/loading.  ultimately the VST standard needs to be scrapped, or at least given OSC support on equal footing as MIDI, and make the file format less of a joke..

anyways if phatmatik is your main concern, why not make an infinitely better replacement for it? this patch will check for beat-timing metadata, if it exists load it, if not scan it..so you dont hve to wait for bonk~ to run each time..(but a non-realtime switch~ option in subpatches would definitely be cool..if anyone is up for a real challenge :)

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