> it work fine here : pd0.38 test10 / linux which version of tcl/tk? tcl/tk: 8.4.6 pd: devel_0_37 / devel_0_38 / 0.38-test10 cheers ... tim -- mailto:TimBlechmann at gmx.de ICQ: 96771783 http://www.mokabar.tk After one look at this planet any visitor from outer space would say "I want to see the manager." William S. Burroughs