[PD] Mac OS X, ALT-Shortcuts, dollarsign on Finnish keyboards?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Sounds like a good idea, except for there are lots conflicts with  
standard keys, like Ctrl/Cmd-V for paste, Ctrl/Cmd-C for Copy, or Cmd-H  
for Hide App, Cmd-T for the font panel, Ctrl/Cmd-N for New.  B,U,I  
(Bold, Underline, Italic) can probably be overriden no problem tho.  So  
maybe Alt is the best comprimise.  Ctrl/Cmd-Shift might be an  
alternative, but Cmd-Shift-H is standard key for Hide Others.

.hc

On Dec 7, 2004, at 6:59 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Should Pd be using Alt-shortcuts at all, if that prevents people in
> Finland (and doubtless other places as well) from getting to characters
> that require the alt key to type?  Maybe I should move everything over  
> to
> "control" (Windoze/Linux) and "command" (Apple).
>
> Opinions?
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
> On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 04:05:13PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>
>> I just remembered, the latest version of Tcl/Tk,  8.4.7, addresses the
>> wierdness of the Alt key, so it should be much easier to use the Alt
>> key on Darwin/MacOS X with Tcl/Tk 8.4.7
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2004, at 3:09 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It has to do with the way that the keys are mapped in Pd.  The Tcl/Tk
>>> framework fully supports all of the keys.
>>>
>>> Reworking the menus and key commands is relatively high on my todo
>>> list, but it'll probably be a couple months before I have time to get
>>> to it.  Hopefully someone else will get to it before me...
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On Nov 1, 2004, at 2:39 PM, rainer kohlberger wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> New to PD and a Mac OS X user;
>>>> browsed the pd-list-mailarchive and found out that other users had
>>>> have the same problem (in June):
>>>> 'ALT'-shortcuts (for putting bangs, toggles, etc.) do not work.
>>>>
>>>> Is that problem solved in the meantime?
>>>> Has it something to do with the Tcl/Tk-Framwork?
>>>> Other ideas?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> rainer.
>>>>
>>>>
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