> all, and the backslash and braces are special characters in Tcl, the > language used in the user-interface part of PureData; this means that > any use of those special characters is ambiguous and confuses Tcl, So maybe we should forget Tcl ... :) LG Georg (a little bit joking) -- +++ Sparen beginnt mit GMX DSL: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl