[PD] Bounty [Re: no licensing, no money?]

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Jamie and I also worked quite a bit on figuring out how to get the Gem  
window to behave as part of the Pd.app.  Unforunately, that's a  
difficult problem.  I think that the groundwork was laid for bridging  
Gem/PDP/GridFlow at the convention as well.  This is what I think  
should happen at the conference, rather than the completion of coding  
of finished features.  We can finish coding alone.  It is necessary to  
discuss things before starting projects that require collaboration.   
Face-to-face meetings work much better for such discussions.

.hc

On May 19, 2005, at 4:54 AM, Tim Blechmann wrote:

>> So, again, the idea of the treasurer and a non-profit organization is
>> a good one, paying people for coding, and especially the way that
>> Novell does in the gnome bounty system is not so good. I would rather
>> pay people for doing structural work, for attending to meetings,
>> giving workshops etc.
> well, doing workshops / organizing meetings is a lovely thing, but does
> it produce code?
> i mean the documentation / education problem is one thing, the
> development something else.
> also, i don't think it's a good idea to talk about workarounds for the
> major problems of pd, but actually trying to solve them ... (e.g. how
> many people seperated the gui from the dsp by using two instances of pd
> and how many people thought of a clean solution)
>
>> Maybe pd-graz can take over this task, they have done a faboulous job
>> with the pd-developers conference, the next time such a conference
>> could be partly financed by donation money and organized by the pd
>> community in the whole.
> i like the idea of having conferences / meetings ... it's a lovely  
> thing
> ... but i have a few remarks on that...
>
> - has there been any discussion about the future development during the
> pd-confention, except questions to miller, presentations of externals?
>
> - iirc the only development done was an improved macos installer and  
> the
> port of the tooltips to 0.38 ...
>
> i think there are 4 different aspects:
> - arts: commissioning pieces, realized with pd
> - documentation: writing docs, giving workshops, teaching
> - conferences: developer meetings
> - development: writing code
>
> i think it is important for a donor to know, how his money is used ...
> some donors won't be able to go to conferences in europe, because they
> live in new zeeland, some are not interested in funding arts, since  
> they
> use pd for scientific purposes, some are not interested in reading
> documentation / attending workshops, since they already know, how pd
> works, some are not interested in development, since they have problems
> learning the language...
>
> on the other hand it would be wrong, if someone thinks, he supports the
> "development" just by financing documentation / meetings ... so the  
> only
> thing i could accept for a non-profit organization is to have these 4
> sections, and letting the donor decide, which section to support...
>
> there is one the advantage of a bounty / marketplace / whatever you  
> call
> it ... the donor decides, what he supports and what he want to support
> ...
>
> 1.5¢
>
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