[PD] no licensing, no money?

Alexandre Castonguay acastonguay at artengine.ca
Thu May 19 17:27:55 CEST 2005

Hello all,

At my University, we will donate to PureData next year, having a PayPal 
account on the IEM (I have not seen one) and other sites would make it 
easier.  I am also working on documentation with students.

With artengine (not-for-profit, artist-run organization), we support PD and 
related efforts by presenting artworks and performances that make use of it, 
supporting specific projects (such as the iobox and parts of GridFlow) and 
offering workshops (next one starts on the 27th, Ben Bogart will present GEM 
and PixelTango, any takers ;-?).

I agree with Maarten about selling a PureData 'product'.  An easy to install 
package coupled with support could bring in some funding. It would make it 
easier to justify giving money to free software while removing the stigmata 
of : 'it's free (of charge) it must be a lesser product than a commercial 

As I see it, such a product should be offered by a not-for-profit organisation 
that is :

- Incorporated so that there is an elected board of directors and it's 
operations are completely open
- Financially transparent

Perhaps the IEM should be where such an organisation should be started/hosted, 
or maybe the just formed pd~graz Verein is it? Any such organisation would 
bring it's fair share of discussions and administration overhead. PayPal 
accounts do not get used a lot so maybe this is worth it.



On Tuesday 17 May 2005 06:48, Maarten de Boer wrote:
> Hi Max,
> An example comes to mind. The guys behind the Rosegarden software
> started a music oriented linux distro, http://www.ferventsoftware.com,
> as a way to finance their development of Rosegarden. Currently it doesn't
> include PD, but it's an example of how free software can be combined
> with a commercial offering.
> But the most common way I suppose would be selling "support" (including
> implemented new custom features, etc). I guess all it would take in the
> case of PD is some company offering such support for PD.
> I see the FSF has on webpage on the subject:
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html
> maarten
> On Tue, 17 May 2005 01:07:37 +0200
> Max Neupert <abonnements at revolwear.com> wrote:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > I'm curious to hear your point of view to this: the university asked me
> > to review the list of software they want to order for the department.
> > They've got also Max/MSP and Jitter on the list. This is a nice thing
> > but my point is: the students already work with PD, why should they use
> > and learn software they might not be able to afford after they leave
> > the university? I guess you all agree that the money should rather be
> > spent in PD development. but since there is no license to aquire the
> > university can't ask companys to give bids on this deal. how can open
> > source projects handle this? any suggestions?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Max Neupert
> > Tutor im Fachgebiet Medienkunst
> > Hochschule für Kunst und Design
> > Burg Giebichenstein
> > Halle, Deutschland
> >
> > http://kunstundmedien.burg-halle.de
> >
> >
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