[PD] Re: [PD-dev] GridFlow documentation fundraising.

B. Bogart ben at ekran.org
Mon Oct 10 16:15:28 CEST 2005


Hey all,

I just caught this thread now.

In terms of grid-flow docs how does the aim of this project relate to
the early efforts of:

PDDP
Workshop/Tutorial Standard

(both have wiki pages on puredata.info)

Also the work of Darsha and Stef @ artengine on gridflow tutorials...

Just checking for a "fork" or more collaboration...

b.


David Plans Casal wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On 2 Oct 2005, at 21:50, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
>> I support all documentation efforts, of course, and GridFlow does
>> sound quite useful, but I have to say, you don't need C, C++, or
>> GridFlow to write your own Pd objects.  You can write Pd objects in Pd
>> itself.
>
>
> Quite true of course; what I should have said is that writing in Ruby is
> easier than C, for objects that would be difficult/impossible to write
> in PD itself, such as those using external libraries, etc.
>
> It is also a uniquely accessible way to teach OO design with regards to
> Puredata externals, even if just to prototype (and then redo in PD
> itself, or a C external for speed, whatever). The point is, if we can
> explain the function of an external by writing it, such as:
>
> #this object is a flow object subclassed from GridFlow's FObject, it
> will be called random_choice, and will have 1 inlet and 1 outlet
> GridFlow::FObject.subclass("random_choice",1,1) {
>   # we take whatever comes in, and choose either 0 or 1
>   def _0_bang
>     send_out 0, [0,1][rand.round]
>   end
> }
>
> Being able to write that in a user's home directory's .gridflow_startup,
> load from ruby console on a running instance of PD, and call the object
> with [random_choice] does a great deal to get an 'Oh!' moment...
>
>> Looking forward to those docs, so we can sway more Jitter users to the
>> open-source side of Max.
>
>
> Hey, same here! We're going to fundraise locally through DJ/VJ events to
> raise awareness of alternatives to Jitter and Max, and hopefully we'll
> end up with at the very least, more approachable docs for newcomers.
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
>
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