[PD] Pd packaging on osx was: Re: [PD-announce] [osx] pd++0.39-1Beta available

[Ti Bo]

I beg to differ.

I must say that after doing a lot of annoying copying and shifting and  
all that,
that the semisimplicity of Hans' installer has been wonderful. And  
because I
just tried PixelTango, I was impressed that even more things are  
installed
automagically.

It would, however, be good to have instructions of how to update easily.

cheers,

tim



On Oct 24, 2005, at 9:24 AM, Lorenz Schori wrote:

> hi hans & james, hi list
>
> i appreciate the efforts you two do for packing pd for osx.  
> pd-extended really helped me to jump into pd a little while ago.  
> however allow me to give some comments:
> 1. the osx package is not the right place for externals. i suggest  
> using standard "Library/Application Support" directory.
> 2. it does not make much sense to distribute all externals together.  
> while it is okay for standard ones (the ones in the build system),  
> pdp, gem, flext and other complex packages will likely have to be  
> updated/changed in closer intervals.
> i propose to just provide pd core with standard externals (identical  
> to millers distribution) + better tcl/tk, packing only externals and  
> tell the user to install those into the right place. then a simple  
> install script wrapping "defaults write" (as a suggested before) would  
> make sure that the path and lib settings in pd point to the right  
> place. i did not look into the documentation mechanism of pd, so i  
> think there will be the real problem of my approach.
>
> comments welcome.
>
> cheers
> lorenz
>
>
> Am 24.10.2005 um 06:24 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>
>>
>> Lots of good fixes, thanks Jamie.  I'll be incorporating them into  
>> the main build system soon.  Some comments:
>>
>> - When I use the Help->Browser menu, it seems to be copying a ton of  
>> files each time I use the menu.  I know that Miller introduced this  
>> hack for Mac OS X with 0.39, but it seems to have gone wild with  
>> pd++.
>>
>> - It runs for me on 10.3.9, including Gem, but I can't get the new  
>> Gem window behavior to work.  For me, its still the old-style,  
>> Cmd-click to move and never gain focus.
>>
>> - can you post how you compiled pdp/pidip somewhere?  Ideally, I  
>> think we'd import a stable version of pdp into the CVS (currently, it  
>> seems to be pdp 0.12.2) so this could become part of the standard  
>> build system.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2005, at 12:37 PM, james tittle wrote:
>>
>>
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/tigital
>>>
>>> ...in the puredataStuff directory there is an archive containing  
>>> pd++0.39-1Beta.tgz...this is built in a similar way to Hans'  
>>> releases, but includes a ton of fixes, such as:
>>>
>>> - the flext system is now working, but only xsample/dyn~/pool  
>>> included atm
>>> - uses tcl/tk 8.4.10
>>> - 10.4.x only, as far as I can tell
>>> - pdp 0.12.4 & pidip 0.12.19 both included (static linked libs)!  
>>> mainly used via the pdp/gem bridges, but [pdp_glx] should also  
>>> work...also don't forget [pdp_ieee1394] for video input, with fixes  
>>> (more to come)
>>> - pdp2gem, gem2pdp, pix_2pdp
>>> - latest gem, zexy, miXed, cyclone cvs
>>> - gem window is now "frontable", so it [gemmouse] works (and it  
>>> generally behaves like a real window should)
>>> - tons of externals from cvs:  I'll try to produce a list
>>>
>>> ...comments welcome!  Especially interested to see if this fixes  
>>> some "slow interface" problems people have complained about of  
>>> late...
>>>
>>> l8r,
>>> james
>>>
>>> ps:  as soon as I can sort out a problem with scons, devel_0_39 will  
>>> be available (and of course desiredata after that!)
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PD-announce mailing list
>>> PD-announce at iem.at
>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________ 
>> ______
>>
>>                             http://at.or.at/hans/
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PD-list at iem.at mailing list
>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->  
>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> PD-list at iem.at mailing list
> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->  
> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
>
-----    Tim Boykett  TIME'S UP::Research Department
  \   /   Industriezeile 33b A-4020 Linz Austria
   X    +43-732-787804(ph)   +43-732-7878043(fx)
  /   \  tim at timesup.org    http://www.timesup.org
-----
http://www.timesup.org/fieldresearch/setups/index.html