[PD] PD OSX packaging redux

David Plans Casal main at davidcasal.com
Thu Nov 10 11:45:46 CET 2005


As always in the FLOSS world, by the time you start work on something, 
someone smarter has already done it :-)

On 9 Nov 2005, at 23:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

> Things are mostly already broken down into logical units.  Pd, 
> externals, flext, those all have distinct build systems which are just 
> called from packages/darwin_app/Makefile.  I have now been sponsored 
> to make this build system cross-platform, and cross-packaging system 
> even.  So after this is done, it will be easier to make fink packages, 
> darwinports, RPMs, DEBs, gentoo packages, etc.  All with the huge 
> benefit of having the exact same contents in every package across all 
> platforms.

Could you explain what you mean by 'sponsored'? If you mean you're 
getting funded to actively work on PD's build system, this is wonderful 

I agree with Frank that the point of Fink is upstream libs and 
separation of concerns, which is why I spent hours yesterday looking at 
packaging pd in fink; the result of which is...I can see Hans's point:

If we can use the darwin_app/Makefile to produce a Fink package (or 
darwinports, or gentoo, or whatever, especially .deb), then the package 
'maintainer' job disappears, since all that has to happen is, we keep 
different packages generated from that makefile in puredata.info, for 
people to get, or they get submitted to fink tracker, or whatever.

In any case, generating packages from a unified build system makes 
sense. No?

> If you look at just your particular OS/package preference, you don't 
> see the whole picture.

Point taken.

> As I have said before, I am not going to stop anyone, but all I ask is 
> that we spend our limited resources on other things besides 
> reinventing the build system wheel.  Fink or Darwinports packages 
> could be useful, so please at the very least, let's work together to 
> have one system that can work for building.

I think I would really appreciate the ability to rely on fink packages 
so that if I need a lib I'm thinking through fink, not a hand-compiled 
mess. And, I'd like to help achieve that. However, I'm not going to get 
in the way of a sensible idea, like unifying builds and generating 
packages from that.

How does Hans' work relate to James'? Is James just packaging .app s 
outside the remit of Hans' darwin_app?

Maybe we could coalesce efforts at this point?


# David Plans Casal

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