[PD] Re: pure == slow, impure == fast ? was purepd

[carmen]

> That's great!  I've started a project I call "PurePd".  Whenever I get  
> inspired, I write a Pd patch that is a clone of a useful external.  I  
> just added it to abstractions/purepd and the build system.  It would be  
> great if you could contribute this patch as [list2symbol] and anything  
> else that you can think of.  I have a Max-style [counter], [speedlim],  
> and even a [metro] in the works.

its a nice ideal, but i cant help but think we'd end up with something performing more like ruby than a realtime media system if 'everything is an abstraction' and the core just defined syntax. i mean the few times i rewrote things in pd - [hsv2rgb] and [sprintf] - they ended up about 10 times slower.. and thats not even dealing with a fraction of the bandwidth of audio or video..

maybe theres a way to byte-compile them down to get some of the performance back, a la .pyc or .elc...but that sounds more like a PhD project...

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> I have also started writing objects in Pd that make writing objects in  
> Pd much easier.  Things like [float_argument] and [symbol_argument]  
> which handle receiving arguments, and can distinguish between when the  
> object is instantiated with an argument, and when it is not.  Other  
> ideas I have for patches in this genre are a debug objects that can be  
> controlled locally or by a global send/receive.  Also, I have been  
> sketching out print_error and print_version objects.
> 
> I need a new name for this second project now, since it makes sense to  
> keep it distinct from PurePd.  "libtools" comes to mind....

awfully reminiscent of 'libtool'.. i guess instead of libtoolize you could have libtoolsize, or PurePdIze, to instantly convert all your C objects into PD objects, and get the real-time gratification of a 80% performance loss..

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