[PD] PD Documentation/Curriculum Meeting

B. Bogart ben at ekran.org
Sun Nov 20 20:38:08 CET 2005

Hi Aymeric,

I would like goto10 to be at this meeting for sure, when do you propose
to change it to? One or two hours or more?

For everyone else who would like to attend, is having the meeting a few
hours later possible? It is certainly possible for me.

Say +2 hrs?


aym3ric wrote:
> yo ben
> just came across this thread,
> i think some of use would like to intend to this meeting but won't be
> possible that early. is it possible to postpone ?
> B. Bogart said:
>>Hi Koray!
>>Please post this on the workshops wiki so we have a record of all that
>>is out there for materials.
>>Looking forward to hearing your POV on tuesday, I'm not sure what the
>>attendance will be like, but I've not seen anyone asking to reschedule.
>>Koray Tahiroglu wrote:
>>>Hello Ben,
>>>I think it is a good idea to discuss and hear other experiences about
>>>how PD should be thought both in workshops and in long term courses. I
>>>have been organizing PD workshops in Helsinki since last year and  I
>>>just had the last one during the last week. I placed the exercises and
>>>also students works at http://www.puredata.org/Members/korayt/
>>>Today I will update the site with  the other students' works from
>>>previous workshops. We couldn't really have time to talk about this
>>>during the Piksel, I remember the email you sent about the same subject
>>>when you were in Helsinki and at that time I was not in Helsinki, so we
>>>couldn't really talk about this,  but I will be online on Tuesday.
>>>M.Koray Tahiroglu
>>>Media Lab,
>>>University of Art and Design Helsinki, TaiK
>>>Hameentie 135C 00560 Helsinki Finland
>>>tel: +358 40 754 8449
>>>fax: +358 9 75630 555
>>>>Message: 8
>>>>Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:38:56 -0500
>>>>From: "B. Bogart" <ben at ekran.org <mailto:ben at ekran.org>>
>>>>Subject: [PD] PD Documentation/Curriculum Meeting
>>>>To: PD list <pd-list at iem.at <mailto:pd-list at iem.at>>
>>>>Message-ID: <437E5800.6090400 at ekran.org
>>>><mailto:437E5800.6090400 at ekran.org>>
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>>>>Hello all,
>>>>I'd like to set up a meeting for the discussion around the PD
>>>>documentation. This is an especially interesting time considering the
>>>>max vs pd thread on this list.
>>>>Documentation includes:
>>>>* Workshops (PD curriculum)
>>>>* Help Patches (PDDP)
>>>>* Manuals
>>>>* How PD relates to networks and physical media
>>>>Anything else that serves as newbie access to the world of Pure-Data+.
>>>>Tuesday November 22nd @
>>>>9.00 Pacific Time
>>>>12.00 Eastern Time
>>>>17.00 UTC
>>>>18.00 Central European
>>>>Please let us know if you would like to make it but can't do that date.
>>>>Miller can you make it?
>>>>#dataflow on irc.freenode.net
>>>>Who should attend?
>>>>Anyone who has taught a PD workshop.
>>>>Anyone who has attended a workshop that they know could be improved.
>>>>Anyone who would like to develop standards around how documentation
>>>>Anyhow who wants to contribute to documentation or coding to make
>>>>documentation better (pddplink etc..)
>>>>* What steps have been made?
>>>>   - Discussion about the wiki pages below.
>>>>   - Philosophy
>>>>      - How PD should be taught.
>>>>      - Rules for developing tutorials/workshops/curriculum
>>>>   - PDDP changes
>>>>      - Template for help-patches (ready)
>>>>      - Template for all_about (unchanged)
>>>>      - Template for tutorials (new)
>>>>      - Template for GUI elements
>>>>   - Programming (overlaps with pd-dev discussions)
>>>>      - Meta data for patches/tutorials/etc..
>>>>      - "Help" menu
>>>>   - Structure of a future wiki to separate the different aspects of
>>>>This list is a starting point that runs over many of the Documentation
>>>>issues. I don't think we'll figure out a lot of these things, just
>>>>casting the net and trolling for ideas. There are other issues not
>>>>mentioned here either.
>>>>Required Reading: (Check out before you come!)
>>>>* https://puredata.org/docs/workshops/FrontPage/
>>>>* https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDWorkshops/
>>>>* https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDDocumentationStructure/
>>>>Thanks all, hope to see you there.
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