[PD] about [prepend] on osx
matju at artengine.ca
Mon Nov 28 08:24:16 CET 2005
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> > subclass:instanceVariableNames:classVariableNames:poolDictionaries:
> Its usually done like this to make things clearer:
> Object subclass: #MessagePublisher
> instanceVariableNames: ''
> classVariableNames: ''
> poolDictionaries: ''
Well, in Smalltalk, it's required to insert an argument after each
column. And then, spacing things out doesn't make things clearer, they
make them more spaced out, period. The message selector is still a
67-character symbol. It's worse than German words! (well, *most* German
words, I mean)
> > while in Ruby it's done by sending this message to the Class class:
> > new
> That's a pretty weak argument if you pull it a little snippet of code
> totally out of context.
Ok, I'll give away the context now. The context is that this is one of the
most important message selectors in the Smalltalk language. It's not just
a little snippet of code, it's one that appears in nearly every Smalltalk
And yes, that's about the worst case in the Smalltalk language. But it's
not unfair, because it's also a very common case, so common that every
Smalltalk programmer sees it on his/her first day.
> How about a page of code side by side?
If you want to compare Ruby and Smalltalk, you may pick a page of each for
the sake of your argument.
> Writing gibberish just to fill out space would be stupid in any
> language. And it seems that redundancy works quite well in written
> language, look at all these big words repeated again and again, it could
> be much shorter if I just abbreviated everything. But would it be more
As I said, each word is already an abbreviation of its definition.
Now, comparing lengths of words to each other: people invent long words
for occasional concepts, and short words for very recurrent concepts. For
example, the word "ich" is a lot shorter than the word
"Generalstaatsverordnetenversammlungen", and that's not a coïncidence. You
aren't going to make people verbosify their daily speech using the
argument that "ich" is an abbreviation and so it is an evil word.
Normal daily speech is a natural occurrence of Huffman compression.
Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju
Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada
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