[PD] pd font finetuning with tk scaling ?

[B. Bogart]

Woo hoo!!!!

Miller, how does PD size object boxes?

b.

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
> Duh, why didn't I remember the -10 thing.  Anyway, I tried that, and it
> does indeed work!  The font sizes are very similar in size on Windows
> and Mac OS X.  But now the problem is that the boxes on Mac OS X a
> being created too large.  I think that this shouldn't be too hard to
> figure out, it might just be a matter of replacing all of the Xwindows
> font specs with { courier -12 bold } Tk-style font specs.
>
> It would be great to get this into the upcoming Pd-extended release.
>
> .hc
>
> On Nov 28, 2005, at 10:38 AM, B. Bogart wrote:
>
>>> hmmm, and did you try with the -10 pixel based font size?
>>>
>>> if the pixel (width) of the font is known then it would be easy to  scale
>>> the object box based on the number of characters/spaces.
>>>
>>> Is that how this how it works now Miller?
>>>
>>> Should be easy to adapt that code to work with a consistant font.
>>>
>>> Good work Hans!
>>>
>>> b.
>>>
>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think I found something:  if you change the fontspec from Xwindows
>>>> style ( -*-courier-bold--normal--10-) to standard Tk style { courier  10
>>>> bold }, then it looks like the fonts are the same size on MacOSX and
>>>> Windows.  But then, the only problem is that the object boxes don't
>>>> adjust, and are too short for the object text.
>>>>
>>>> It actually swings it the other way, with the same font being bigger  on
>>>> Windows than on OSX.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 26, 2005, at 3:37 PM, carmen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see how the point size will be somehow different in aspect
>>>>>> ratio
>>>>>>  from the pixel size?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> why point/pixel sizes at all? for years the way to specify a font
>>>>> size  for web is in "em" units. 1.0em 0.8em etc..
>>>>>
>>>>>> If courier 12 is say 10pixels wide then it should be identical to
>>>>>> courier -10 visually, since the aspect *should* be the same.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> even a 12 point font can be different on the same platform depending
>>>>> on which DPI you launched your X server at, which toolkit you are
>>>>> using, etc..
>>>>>
>>>>>> Or am I misunderstanding what you mean by the "at least three
>>>>>> dimensions
>>>>>> to a font size"?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> id say theres at least 4... platform, dpi, font, fontsize
>>>>>
>>>>>> The font issue is really a stumbling block for trying to make
>>>>>> anything
>>>>>> look constant accross platforms. The current PD documentation is a
>>>>>> great
>>>>>> example of this, where, depending on the platform, many help-patches
>>>>>> open with overlapping messages/comments. :(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> how about a scalable canvas with a client-side algo to make sure
>>>>> nothing overlaps? something like http://whats-your.name/pd/chokun.png
>>>>> but with less ugly colours?
>>>>>
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