[PD] pd font finetuning with tk scaling ?
Hans-Christoph Steiner
hans at eds.org
Wed Nov 30 03:49:45 CET 2005
I don't know exactly what its used for, but it is font sizing info. It
looks to me that its for sizing things based on font size, which might
be what we need for the boxes.
.hc
On Nov 29, 2005, at 3:58 AM, Andre Schmidt wrote:
> does this affect us too ? (its from millers cvs. devel has still
> issues)
>
> in 's_main.c'
>
> /* these give the nominal point size and maximum height of the
> characters
> in the six fonts. */
>
> static t_fontinfo sys_fontlist[] = {
> {8, 5, 9, 0, 0, 0}, {10, 7, 13, 0, 0, 0}, {12, 9, 16, 0, 0, 0},
> {16, 10, 20, 0, 0, 0}, {24, 15, 25, 0, 0, 0}, {36, 25, 45, 0, 0,
> 0}};
> #define NFONT (sizeof(sys_fontlist)/sizeof(*sys_fontlist))
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 15:37 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
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>> Looks like that is done here (in u_main.tk aka pd.tk):
>>
>> proc pdtk_pd_startup {version apilist} {
>> global pd_myversion pd_apilist
>> set pd_myversion $version
>> set pd_apilist $apilist
>>
>> set width1 [font measure -*-courier-bold--normal--8-* x]
>> set height1 [lindex [font metrics -*-courier-bold--normal--8-*]
>> 5]
>>
>> set width2 [font measure -*-courier-bold--normal--10-* x]
>> set height2 [lindex [font metrics -*-courier-bold--normal--10-*]
>> 5]
>>
>> set width3 [font measure -*-courier-bold--normal--12-* x]
>> set height3 [lindex [font metrics -*-courier-bold--normal--12-*]
>> 5]
>>
>> set width4 [font measure -*-courier-bold--normal--14-* x]
>> set height4 [lindex [font metrics -*-courier-bold--normal--14-*]
>> 5]
>>
>> set width5 [font measure -*-courier-bold--normal--16-* x]
>> set height5 [lindex [font metrics -*-courier-bold--normal--16-*]
>> 5]
>>
>> set width6 [font measure -*-courier-bold--normal--24-* x]
>> set height6 [lindex [font metrics -*-courier-bold--normal--24-*]
>> 5]
>>
>> set width7 [font measure -*-courier-bold--normal--36-* x]
>> set height7 [lindex [font metrics -*-courier-bold--normal--36-*]
>> 5]
>>
>>
>> I don't have time to mess with it now, anyone else want to try?
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:25 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
>>
>>> Woo hoo!!!!
>>>
>>> Miller, how does PD size object boxes?
>>>
>>> b.
>>>
>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Duh, why didn't I remember the -10 thing. Anyway, I tried that, and
>>>> it
>>>> does indeed work! The font sizes are very similar in size on
>>>> Windows
>>>> and Mac OS X. But now the problem is that the boxes on Mac OS X a
>>>> being created too large. I think that this shouldn't be too hard to
>>>> figure out, it might just be a matter of replacing all of the
>>>> Xwindows
>>>> font specs with { courier -12 bold } Tk-style font specs.
>>>>
>>>> It would be great to get this into the upcoming Pd-extended release.
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 28, 2005, at 10:38 AM, B. Bogart wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> hmmm, and did you try with the -10 pixel based font size?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if the pixel (width) of the font is known then it would be easy to
>>>>>> scale
>>>>>> the object box based on the number of characters/spaces.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that how this how it works now Miller?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should be easy to adapt that code to work with a consistant font.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good work Hans!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> b.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I found something: if you change the fontspec from
>>>>>>> Xwindows
>>>>>>> style ( -*-courier-bold--normal--10-) to standard Tk style {
>>>>>>> courier 10
>>>>>>> bold }, then it looks like the fonts are the same size on MacOSX
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Windows. But then, the only problem is that the object boxes
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> adjust, and are too short for the object text.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It actually swings it the other way, with the same font being
>>>>>>> bigger on
>>>>>>> Windows than on OSX.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2005, at 3:37 PM, carmen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't see how the point size will be somehow different in
>>>>>>>>> aspect
>>>>>>>>> ratio
>>>>>>>>> from the pixel size?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> why point/pixel sizes at all? for years the way to specify a
>>>>>>>> font
>>>>>>>> size for web is in "em" units. 1.0em 0.8em etc..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If courier 12 is say 10pixels wide then it should be identical
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> courier -10 visually, since the aspect *should* be the same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> even a 12 point font can be different on the same platform
>>>>>>>> depending
>>>>>>>> on which DPI you launched your X server at, which toolkit you
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> using, etc..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or am I misunderstanding what you mean by the "at least three
>>>>>>>>> dimensions
>>>>>>>>> to a font size"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> id say theres at least 4... platform, dpi, font, fontsize
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The font issue is really a stumbling block for trying to make
>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>> look constant accross platforms. The current PD documentation
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>> example of this, where, depending on the platform, many
>>>>>>>>> help-patches
>>>>>>>>> open with overlapping messages/comments. :(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> how about a scalable canvas with a client-side algo to make sure
>>>>>>>> nothing overlaps? something like
>>>>>>>> http://whats-your.name/pd/chokun.png
>>>>>>>> but with less ugly colours?
>>>>>>>>
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