[PD] pd font finetuning with tk scaling ?
Miller Puckette
mpuckett at imusic1.ucsd.edu
Wed Nov 30 05:51:04 CET 2005
This is used for sys_initfromgui() to search for fonts with acceptable
size, among the ones TK gave us. Naturally I'd love to throw that out
and really select fonts of the desired pixel sizes, once I know a way
to get TK to do that...
cheers
Miller
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 09:49:45PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
> I don't know exactly what its used for, but it is font sizing info. It
> looks to me that its for sizing things based on font size, which might
> be what we need for the boxes.
>
> .hc
>
> On Nov 29, 2005, at 3:58 AM, Andre Schmidt wrote:
>
> >does this affect us too ? (its from millers cvs. devel has still
> >issues)
> >
> >in 's_main.c'
> >
> > /* these give the nominal point size and maximum height of the
> >characters
> > in the six fonts. */
> >
> >static t_fontinfo sys_fontlist[] = {
> > {8, 5, 9, 0, 0, 0}, {10, 7, 13, 0, 0, 0}, {12, 9, 16, 0, 0, 0},
> > {16, 10, 20, 0, 0, 0}, {24, 15, 25, 0, 0, 0}, {36, 25, 45, 0, 0,
> >0}};
> >#define NFONT (sizeof(sys_fontlist)/sizeof(*sys_fontlist))
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 15:37 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
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> >>
> >>Looks like that is done here (in u_main.tk aka pd.tk):
> >>
> >>proc pdtk_pd_startup {version apilist} {
> >> global pd_myversion pd_apilist
> >> set pd_myversion $version
> >> set pd_apilist $apilist
> >>
> >> set width1 [font measure -*-courier-bold--normal--8-* x]
> >> set height1 [lindex [font metrics -*-courier-bold--normal--8-*]
> >>5]
> >>
> >> set width2 [font measure -*-courier-bold--normal--10-* x]
> >> set height2 [lindex [font metrics -*-courier-bold--normal--10-*]
> >>5]
> >>
> >> set width3 [font measure -*-courier-bold--normal--12-* x]
> >> set height3 [lindex [font metrics -*-courier-bold--normal--12-*]
> >>5]
> >>
> >> set width4 [font measure -*-courier-bold--normal--14-* x]
> >> set height4 [lindex [font metrics -*-courier-bold--normal--14-*]
> >>5]
> >>
> >> set width5 [font measure -*-courier-bold--normal--16-* x]
> >> set height5 [lindex [font metrics -*-courier-bold--normal--16-*]
> >>5]
> >>
> >> set width6 [font measure -*-courier-bold--normal--24-* x]
> >> set height6 [lindex [font metrics -*-courier-bold--normal--24-*]
> >>5]
> >>
> >> set width7 [font measure -*-courier-bold--normal--36-* x]
> >> set height7 [lindex [font metrics -*-courier-bold--normal--36-*]
> >>5]
> >>
> >>
> >>I don't have time to mess with it now, anyone else want to try?
> >>
> >>.hc
> >>
> >>On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:25 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
> >>
> >>>Woo hoo!!!!
> >>>
> >>>Miller, how does PD size object boxes?
> >>>
> >>>b.
> >>>
> >>>Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>Duh, why didn't I remember the -10 thing. Anyway, I tried that, and
> >>>>it
> >>>>does indeed work! The font sizes are very similar in size on
> >>>>Windows
> >>>>and Mac OS X. But now the problem is that the boxes on Mac OS X a
> >>>>being created too large. I think that this shouldn't be too hard to
> >>>>figure out, it might just be a matter of replacing all of the
> >>>>Xwindows
> >>>>font specs with { courier -12 bold } Tk-style font specs.
> >>>>
> >>>>It would be great to get this into the upcoming Pd-extended release.
> >>>>
> >>>>.hc
> >>>>
> >>>>On Nov 28, 2005, at 10:38 AM, B. Bogart wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>hmmm, and did you try with the -10 pixel based font size?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>if the pixel (width) of the font is known then it would be easy to
> >>>>>>scale
> >>>>>>the object box based on the number of characters/spaces.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Is that how this how it works now Miller?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Should be easy to adapt that code to work with a consistant font.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Good work Hans!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>b.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I think I found something: if you change the fontspec from
> >>>>>>>Xwindows
> >>>>>>>style ( -*-courier-bold--normal--10-) to standard Tk style {
> >>>>>>>courier 10
> >>>>>>>bold }, then it looks like the fonts are the same size on MacOSX
> >>>>>>>and
> >>>>>>>Windows. But then, the only problem is that the object boxes
> >>>>>>>don't
> >>>>>>>adjust, and are too short for the object text.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>It actually swings it the other way, with the same font being
> >>>>>>>bigger on
> >>>>>>>Windows than on OSX.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>.hc
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On Nov 26, 2005, at 3:37 PM, carmen wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>I don't see how the point size will be somehow different in
> >>>>>>>>>aspect
> >>>>>>>>>ratio
> >>>>>>>>> from the pixel size?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>why point/pixel sizes at all? for years the way to specify a
> >>>>>>>>font
> >>>>>>>>size for web is in "em" units. 1.0em 0.8em etc..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>If courier 12 is say 10pixels wide then it should be identical
> >>>>>>>>>to
> >>>>>>>>>courier -10 visually, since the aspect *should* be the same.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>even a 12 point font can be different on the same platform
> >>>>>>>>depending
> >>>>>>>>on which DPI you launched your X server at, which toolkit you
> >>>>>>>>are
> >>>>>>>>using, etc..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Or am I misunderstanding what you mean by the "at least three
> >>>>>>>>>dimensions
> >>>>>>>>>to a font size"?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>id say theres at least 4... platform, dpi, font, fontsize
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>The font issue is really a stumbling block for trying to make
> >>>>>>>>>anything
> >>>>>>>>>look constant accross platforms. The current PD documentation
> >>>>>>>>>is
> >>>>>>>>>a
> >>>>>>>>>great
> >>>>>>>>>example of this, where, depending on the platform, many
> >>>>>>>>>help-patches
> >>>>>>>>>open with overlapping messages/comments. :(
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>how about a scalable canvas with a client-side algo to make sure
> >>>>>>>>nothing overlaps? something like
> >>>>>>>>http://whats-your.name/pd/chokun.png
> >>>>>>>>but with less ugly colours?
> >>>>>>>>
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