[PD] Inlinet creation arguments into abstracts

Fri Dec 9 14:29:11 CET 2005

Hi Nuno,

I don't have the opportunity to open the patches right now (yours and 
the answer).

So maybe I'm duplication Jerome's example but maybe I can help you 
understand how it works...
You seem to be misunderstanding one thing:

With the creation arguments (e.g. [sub n0.avi]) you don't create 
_inlets_ but variables inside the abstraction.

If you have for example an object [symbol $1] in your sub.pd then the $1 
will be replaced by the first creation argument in the actual instance 
of the abstraction.

For example you can put the following in sub.pd:

[loadbang}
|
[symbol $1]
|
...

Then the replaced $1 (= n0.avi) will be sent to wherever you like it 
after the abstraction has been loaded.

HTH
Urs

Jerome Tuncer schrieb:
> Yep,
> 
> Got it.
> 
> That's how it should be done. At least that's how I do it (-:
> 
> ++
> 
> 
> Jé
> 
> Nuno Godinho a écrit :
> 
>> Hi Jé,
>>
>> I am sorry if I didn't explain it well enough.
>>
>> I want to avoid having to send the message "open n0.avi" into the "sub"
>> abstraction. I will be using several instances of "sub". The problem 
>> is that
>> when I create the object like "sub n0.avi", which should be defining 
>> the $1
>> (the leftmost inlet, right?) parameter, nothing happens.  Get it? Now 
>> I have
>> to send the filename through an inlet. I would like to define it as an
>> inline constant argument. I just don't understand how to do it.
>>
>> Maybe it would be easier if you could send me a working example of an 
>> object
>> sending inline arguments into an abstraction.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nuno
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pd-list-bounces at iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces at iem.at] On 
>>> Behalf Of Jerome Tuncer
>>> Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Dezembro de 2005 20:26
>>> To: pd-list at iem.at
>>> Subject: Re: [PD] Inlinet creation arguments into abstracts
>>>
>>> Hhhhhmmmmmmm...
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I'm getting it right here.
>>>
>>> Your patch actually works but what you'd like to do is make it 
>>> simpler in case you have more instances of that sub.pd??
>>>
>>> What's the relationship between this and creation arguments of the 
>>> instance of the abstract.?
>>>
>>> Sorry for being so dumb it doesn't appear clearly to me (-:
>>>
>>> ++
>>>
>>>
>>> Jé
>>>
>>> Nuno Godinho a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi Georg,
>>>>
>>>> I found it on the docs but I still can't figure out how to 
>>>
>>>
>>> use it. I
>>>
>>>> actually tried to add an argument to an abstract but nothing really 
>>>> happened.
>>>>
>>>> I am sending you a dumb example attached so that you can, 
>>>
>>>
>>> if possible,
>>>
>>>> tell me what am I doing wrong. Inside "main" I have an instance of 
>>>> "sub" and now I have to send it "open n0.avi" in order to 
>>>
>>>
>>> make it load
>>>
>>>> the n0.avi file. I would like to just write "sub n0.avi".
>>>>
>>>> Can you help me understand this? It seems to be quite 
>>>
>>>
>>> simple but I am
>>>
>>>> lost here.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Nuno
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Georg Holzmann [mailto:grhPD at gmx.at]
>>>>> Sent: quinta-feira, 8 de Dezembro de 2005 19:06
>>>>> To: Nuno Godinho
>>>>> Cc: pd-list at iem.at
>>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] Inlinet creation arguments into abstracts
>>>>>
>>>>> Hallo!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> anyone help me or point me to documentation? Pd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> documentation talks a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> lot about "creation arguments" but never explains how they
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> actually work.
>>>>> I'm shure it is explained somewhere, but don't know where ...
>>>>> In pd you can use $1 for first creation argument, $2 for the second 
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> LG
>>>>> Georg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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