[PD] Re: tk drawing in PD extended 0.38-4 RC6

[B. Bogart]

Hey Hans,

I did not check what version of tk your using in your RC6 (where the
"ugly" screenshots came from) Looks like on linux I'm using 8.4.9...

I think think its some tk bug, but damn a few stray pixels are an
anoyance, at least for small vector b&w stuff like PD.

b.

hans at eds.org wrote:
>
> Which versions of Tcl/Tk are you using for these screenshots?  There are
> big differences in how things render on 8.4.4 versus 8.4.9 for example.
>
> .hc
>
>
>
>>Hi Hans,
>>
>>#1 It looks like my antialiasing settings for the past couple years has
>>simply aliased away my perception of this problem. In fact it has probably
>>been around for longer than that
>>
>>#2 I think your view of "normal" is not what has been normal for PD (ie
>>not on OSX) check out the following attachments, zoom in real close and
>>take a look. Both are the exact same patch, rendered by OSX and linux.
>>
>>There is certainly something wonky happening with the tk drawing, some
>>elements are one (yes one) pixel off. I did notice when making connections
>>that even the start of the connection does not start at the outlet, but
>>floating one pixel above it. :(
>>
>>Summary of weirdness:
>>
>>* The "rectangle" used to draw a PD inlet is exactly one pixel taller than
>>the outlet. (huh??) on OSX this means we see the whole in the recangle,
>>exposing that it is a non-filled rectangle
>>
>>* The line that connects the bottom right corner of a message box to the
>>inset part seems to extend exactly one pixel past the inset part, giving
>>us a single pixel artifact
>>
>>* the circle in a bang is really wonky, looks slightly mashed into the
>>lower-left corner and is totally asymetrical, where on linux the curcle is
>>centered and symetrical.
>>
>>Yes these are very tight issues (on pixel here and there) but they are
>>distracting me and actually make the PD (clean) interface rather junky.
>>(at least at a low-enough resolution we can see them).
>>
>>James, could this be an artifact of the new tk drawing instructions? Some
>>things are strange, like the inetets of the IEM guis don't seem to have
>>this same issue as the "original" PD objects.
>>
>>I just don't understand how the stable version of tk is doing this, I
>>guess we're the only ones left using the "canvas". *sigh*
>>
>>And yes Hans I agree that the connections really look nice with the AA,
>>and I understand your position. I think it was rather the shock of that
>>the AA was hiding from me that made me so unhappy with having the AA
>>turned off...
>>
>>so much for consistancy.
>>
>>b.
>>
>>
>>On Thu, December 22, 2005 3:34 am, Hans-Christoph Steiner said:
>>
>>>The inlets and outlets look normal to me:
>>>
>>>
>>>It would be nice to have the connections anti-aliases, as long as it
>>>can be done separately from the boxes.  Anti-aliasing on the boxes just
>>>makes everything look out of focus.
>>>
>>>.hc
>>>
>>>On Dec 21, 2005, at 11:40 AM, B. Bogart wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi again hans,
>>>>
>>>>trying to use RC6 rather than pixelTANGO on the g5 here at work. (I
>>>>guess
>>>>you include a g4 Gem binary in there?)
>>>>
>>>>Anyhow why are inlets drawn twice as big as outlets? I could really
>>>>deal
>>>>with the lack of antialiasing on the patch-cords, but the inlets are
>>>>really ugly.
>>>>
>>>>I don't see this on any other platforms, and my pixelTANGO installer
>>>>does
>>>>not do it... ?
>>>>
>>>>b.
>>>>
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