[PD] pd~conf 2.0
Mark Polishook
polishook at optonline.net
Fri Mar 24 17:51:12 CET 2006
On Mar 24, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:
> I think in general, the best place to look is foundations with
> local roots.
> I've had the idea for a while to get the Langlois Foundation to
> underwrite
> a pd-conf in Montreal. I don't know of any locally-focussed
> foundations
> in New York but I bet they exist... (something like Rockefeller
> probably
> wouldn't jump for this since they don't focus on local events
> around New York
> as far as I know.)
and then perhaps for the application look to build a group of
sponsors who contribute in-kind support.
>
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 08:10:16AM -0800, Hans-Christoph Steiner
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, geiger wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>> Its been a while since pd~conf and I think we are long overdue for
>>>> another. I have recently started a job at Polytechnic
>>>> University in
>>>> downtown Brooklyn (http://poly.edu I work at http://
>>>> idmi.poly.edu ),
>>>> and I can host conferences here for free, and the dorms are
>>>> available
>>>> for US$35/night when the students are out of session. This
>>>> place has
>>>> a lot to offer in terms of facilities: a 350 seat auditorium,
>>>> lecture
>>>> halls, a big plaza for art projects, a 9-screen/9-computer hall
>>>> with
>>>> multi-channel sound where we are currently developing software so
>>>> that it can be used as one OpenGL space, one video screen, or a 9-
>>>> screen laptop jam.
>>>>
>>>> The problem in the U.S. is that there are very few grants for this
>>>> kind of thing, so it would probably be hard to get grants to fund
>>>> everyone's travel and hotels like the IEM folks did so amazingly.
>>>> The standard way that conferences fund themselves in the U.S. is by
>>>> charging a conference fee. Since this is about free software, it
>>>> would be nice to have the conference free too.
>>>>
>>>> Let's start the process now and get some ideas flowing, and
>>>> maybe we
>>>> can come up with something.
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Great initiative, my proposal for funding is the one I already
>>> expressed
>>> in our discussion about donations. We get a bank account and a
>>> "Donate" button on the puredata web site.
>>>
>>> Maybe we should calculate the costs for such an event in advance and
>>> when we are about to reach the amount, we organize a conference.
>>>
>>> Although this model didn't find much appreciation back then, I still
>>> think it is a fair use of the collected money on a project where so
>>> many individuals are involved.
>>>
>>> I know that you didn't like this idea, but I have no experience
>>> in fund
>>> raising, so collecting donations is the only thing that comes to
>>> my mind right now.
>>
>> I think this is a great idea, we just need to discuss how to
>> handle it.
>> That's the tricky part. This could make it easy, we could just
>> say that
>> all funds donated to Pd go to running the pd~conf. Then we don't
>> have to
>> figure out how to make more fine grained decisions as a group
>> (tough thing
>> to do...). Then it doesn't really matter where the group is based.
>>
>> So its sounds like a Verein is very easy to start in Austria and
>> Germany,
>> does it provide tax-free status? The next question is whether we
>> can use
>> tax-free money from the EU to fund a conference outside of the EU
>> without
>> paying taxes.
>>
>> Another approach is to have who ever is planning the next pd~conf
>> take
>> control of the donations under the guise of whatever organization
>> that
>> they are working for. I know Alexandre has talked about hosting
>> pd~conf
>> at artengine in Ottawa, CA. They have non-profit status, so they
>> could
>> accept donations tax-free (AFAIK). As for Brooklyn, I could do it
>> as part
>> of Polytechnic University if that gives us tax-free status, or
>> another
>> arts org that am affiliated with in NYC (there are a couple).
>>
>> Then the last thing is, I don't think we are really going to get
>> so many
>> donations. I've had my donate button up for years and I think I've
>> received around US$250 in total.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> zen
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