[PD] pd~conf 2.0

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

In New York, there is http://NYSCA.org and http://NYFA.org, which are  
NY only.  Not big bucks like Langlois, but some money.  Rockefeller  
does fund in NYC and has an specific interest in the region, judging  
by this:

http://www.rockfound.org/ArtsAndCulture/Announcement/127

Both Rockefeller and Langlois seem to have moved their focus to  
outside of Western Europe and the U.S.  Langlois says they'll still  
fund in Canada since that's their homebase.  We talked to Langlois  
about funding PDDP, and they weren't interested, so them funding  
pd~conf doesn't sound so likely.  It would be worth calling them  
tho.  We could maybe get funds from Rockefeller or Langlois to fund  
bringing people from Asia, Africa, and South America.  Something to  
float by them.

On the money front, it turns out that Poly has a "multi-disciplinary  
event fund" that it would probably be relatively easy to get US 
$5-10,000, no more tho.  But it would be good seed money.

.hc


On Mar 24, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:

> I think in general, the best place to look is foundations with  
> local roots.
> I've had the idea for a while to get the Langlois Foundation to  
> underwrite
> a pd-conf in Montreal.  I don't know of any locally-focussed  
> foundations
> in New York but I bet they exist...  (something like Rockefeller  
> probably
> wouldn't jump for this since they don't focus on local events  
> around New York
> as far as I know.)
>
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 08:10:16AM -0800, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, geiger wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>> Its been a while since pd~conf and I think we are long overdue for
>>>> another.  I have recently started a job at Polytechnic  
>>>> University in
>>>> downtown Brooklyn (http://poly.edu I work at http:// 
>>>> idmi.poly.edu ),
>>>> and I can host conferences here for free, and the dorms are  
>>>> available
>>>> for US$35/night when the students are out of session.  This  
>>>> place has
>>>> a lot to offer in terms of facilities: a 350 seat auditorium,  
>>>> lecture
>>>> halls, a big plaza for art projects, a 9-screen/9-computer hall  
>>>> with
>>>> multi-channel sound where we are currently developing software so
>>>> that it can be used as one OpenGL space, one video screen, or a 9-
>>>> screen laptop jam.
>>>>
>>>> The problem in the U.S. is that there are very few grants for this
>>>> kind of thing, so it would probably be hard to get grants to fund
>>>> everyone's travel and hotels like the IEM folks did so amazingly.
>>>> The standard way that conferences fund themselves in the U.S. is by
>>>> charging a conference fee.  Since this is about free software, it
>>>> would be nice to have the conference free too.
>>>>
>>>> Let's start the process now and get some ideas flowing, and  
>>>> maybe we
>>>> can come up with something.
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Great initiative, my proposal for funding is the one I already  
>>> expressed
>>> in our discussion about donations. We get a bank account and a
>>> "Donate" button on the puredata web site.
>>>
>>> Maybe we should calculate the costs for such an event in advance and
>>> when we are about to reach the amount, we organize a conference.
>>>
>>> Although this model didn't find much appreciation back then, I still
>>> think it is a fair use of the collected money on a project where so
>>> many individuals are involved.
>>>
>>> I know that you didn't like this idea, but I have no experience  
>>> in fund
>>> raising, so collecting donations is the only thing that comes to
>>> my mind right now.
>>
>> I think this is a great idea, we just need to discuss how to  
>> handle it.
>> That's the tricky part.  This could make it easy, we could just  
>> say that
>> all funds donated to Pd go to running the pd~conf.  Then we don't  
>> have to
>> figure out how to make more fine grained decisions as a group  
>> (tough thing
>> to do...).  Then it doesn't really matter where the group is based.
>>
>> So its sounds like a Verein is very easy to start in Austria and  
>> Germany,
>> does it provide tax-free status?  The next question is whether we  
>> can use
>> tax-free money from the EU to fund a conference outside of the EU  
>> without
>> paying taxes.
>>
>> Another approach is to have who ever is planning the next pd~conf  
>> take
>> control of the donations under the guise of whatever organization  
>> that
>> they are working for.  I know Alexandre has talked about hosting  
>> pd~conf
>> at artengine in Ottawa, CA.  They have non-profit status, so they  
>> could
>> accept donations tax-free (AFAIK).  As for Brooklyn, I could do it  
>> as part
>> of Polytechnic University if that gives us tax-free status, or  
>> another
>> arts org that am affiliated with in NYC (there are a couple).
>>
>> Then the last thing is, I don't think we are really going to get  
>> so many
>> donations.  I've had my donate button up for years and I think I've
>> received around US$250 in total.
>>
>> .hc
>>
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