[PD] compile pd on ubuntu 5.10

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Ok, I think I should clarify the Pd distros:

Pd-core
    this is sources that Miller maintains.  It includes a basic set  
of objects
Pd-devel
    this is based on based on Pd-core, but has a number of  
significant changes
Pd-extended
    This is Pd-core with some minor patches and "externals", docs,  
etc. from CVS
Pd-devel-extended (coming soon)
    This is Pd-devel with "externals", docs, etc. from CVS
	
All of these are maintained in the same CVS repository.  Pd-core from  
Miller only has the objects that he's included.  There are probably  
2000 objects that are not included in Pd-core (many of which are  
written in Pd) which are in Pd*-extended.

If you want to use all of the externals, we will all be better off if  
we work on the same package.  It takes a lot of work to maintain your  
own distro, if we work on the same distro, we both will have a better  
distro than if we did it ourself.

.hc



On Apr 13, 2006, at 11:45 AM, João Miguel Pais wrote:

> hi,
>
> don't mind about the rants. each small step helps a bit, when the  
> process is made this way.
>
> Then there's the question that didn't got answered: I guess it  
> might be easier to compile pd-extended (since it's already above  
> 0.39 it's ok) than directly from cvs, or it won't be possible to  
> keep the externals up to date. But what's the difference from pd- 
> extended and the cvs version? are any externals missing, or just  
> the outside work, like abstractions, documentation, etc.?
> I'm thinking now of using the pd-ext as main program, and in a  
> folder download the remaining material from cvs (and then put  
> everything into path). Is this a sensible method, or should I think  
> about something else instead?
>
> Joao
>
>
>> I don't think your work was a waste of time at all, this is what  
>> we all to towards making Pd easier to use for all.  If you want  
>> some perspective, look back at the way you used to install Pd:
>>
>> http://web.archive.org/web/20010404044612/http://www.pure-data.org/
>>
>> The only way to get Pd was to download the sources and compile  
>> them yourself.  There is now 2000+ objects included in Pd- 
>> extended, there is the work of perhaps 100+ people.  Its big and  
>> complicated, so that means that building it is not simple.
>>
>> The effort that you put into getting things working on Ubuntu and  
>> documenting it helps us find bugs, make improvements, and future  
>> people can start with your doc and hopefully take it further.
>>
>> We aim to make Debian and Ubuntu (or whatever) packages of Pd- 
>> extended, but someone has to do the work.  The more people who  
>> contribute, the faster that will happen.  These things are not  
>> hard to install by design, but rather because no one has done the  
>> work to make it easy yet.
>>
>> As for successful compilation on GNU/Linux, if someone else has  
>> done it, you can too.  But yes, it can be a painful process.
>
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