[PD] PDDP meeting?

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Thu Apr 20 01:20:42 CEST 2006


Is Adam Hyde on the list?  I think its great for anyone to join,  
seriously, the more the merrier.  Already, the intro that I have been  
assembling is drawing on the work of 10 or so people.

We discussed the idea of a manual a fair amount in the PDDP  
meetings.  I think most/all of us agreed that we want to try to make  
a Pd manual that is completely made up of Pd patches.  The point is  
to highlight learning thru example for every single step.  Having a  
separate manual seems to highlight the book learning style more.   
Yes, this will mean a lot of patches.  I already have 60-ish for the  
intro.

But I also just made a pager object which allows you to easily  
navigate the pages like a manual.  Its included in the most recent  
test releases:

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

Go to Help->Browser... then manuals/intro and load 0-pager.pd  I  
tested it on Windows and Mac OS X.

.hc

On Apr 19, 2006, at 5:07 PM, derek holzer wrote:

> Hey HC and the gang,
>
> Adam Hyde has been working on a PDF/HTML manual for getting PD up  
> and running. I've talked with him a bit about how beneficial such a  
> thing is versus a set of patches like the ones which have been  
> contributed here. But you might want to have a look at it:
>
> http://www.flossmanuals.net/edit
>
> I may be meeting with him soon about where it could go, and I'm  
> sure he's open for other suggestions as well.
>
> Mark Polishook wrote:
>
>> Two comments: 1. the patches are very good at identifying core  
>> concepts and explaining them. 2. But the hard thing about tutorial  
>> writing is it's difficult to show how those small concepts relate  
>> to larger artistic concerns.
>
> I agree on both fronts. The main issue with PD is that people use  
> it for so many different things that demonstrating "artistic  
> concerns" would be pretty limited to what the author happens to be  
> doing with PD. All the same, I do find that there is a serious lack  
> of "demo" patches, or something like a "user library" that noobs  
> could have a look at for inspiration. Simple and not so simple but  
> usable tools, along the same lines as the User Library in Reaktor,  
> or maybe even the Pluggo patches from Cycling74 (except you can't  
> open those up, can you???). I tried to make something like that  
> with ParticleChamber, and I know that other stuff has come up on  
> the list when people ask about synth collections and the like.  
> Might be good to try to collect these kinds of abstractions  
> together into a library of sorts (a la RRRAD).
>
> best,
> derek
>
> -- 
> derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl
> ---Oblique Strategy # 76:
> "Give the game away"


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