[PD] Understanding Selectors, Atoms, Lists ...

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Thu Apr 20 18:44:33 CEST 2006


On Apr 20, 2006, at 10:44 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

> Frank Barknecht wrote:
>> Hallo,
>> hard off hat gesagt: // hard off wrote:
>>>
>>> i agree that these things are not objects and not lists, so "meta
>>> message" sounds perfect to describe them.
>
> i agree too, that these things are neither objects nor lists,  
> however to
> my ears "message" sounds even more perfect than "meta message" or
> "message not of the bang-, float-, symbol- and list-type"

Except that we need to distinguish between symbolic atoms and  
symbolic messages, since they are not the same thing, as the pack  
example illustrates.

I think that "data messages" and "control messages" are a  
possibility... meta messages just sounds to vague to me.

.hc

>
>>
>>
>> Btw: I often use a little abstraction called "prepent.pd" with  
>> pd-0.39,
>> which will generate meta messages with a certain selector. Inside it
>> just consists of a mix of "prepend" and "trim" => "prepent":
>>
>> prepent.pd:
>>
>>   [inlet]        [inlet]
>>   |              |
>>   [list prepend $1]
>>   |
>>   [list trim]
>>   |
>>   [oulet]
>>
>> I use this for example in front of netsend:
>>
>>   [prepent send]
>>   |
>>   [netsend]
>>
>
> indeed this is a very useful thing.
> however, i (personally) use 2 objects instead of 1 (not that much of a
> gain...)
>
> mf.asdr.
> IOhannes
>
>
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