[PD] Understanding Selectors, Atoms, Lists ...

[Krzysztof Czaja]

Frank Barknecht wrote:
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>>there seems to be no logic whether one has can use a message "as  
>>such" and when one has to prepend the "symbol" selector. also there  
>>seems to be no logic whether an object outputs a list "as such" or  
>>with a prepended "list" selector ; like [pack] accepts a symbol  
>>without "symbol" in the left inlet, but not in the right inlet ; it  
>>will output a list prepended by "list" ; if i put this list into  
>>[zl], the list-prefix is stripped.
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> 
> I consider this a bug of [zl]. With newer Pd's you should use [list]

a feature not a bug!  Pd message system was designed for signal
processing control, not for symbolic processing of any sort.

zl is just a version of the ``list ops'' Max library by James
McCartney.  Thus, in a sense, it was obsoleted first by pyrite,
then by sc...

Krzysztof