meta data WAS Re: [PD] Can't get any results from PDB

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

This is not a complete work or even design.  The design has been  
discussed quite a bit, so I think its basically sound.  But if anyone  
is interested in implementing any of this, please feel free.  I for  
one am not going to have any time to try for a few months.  All help  
is appreciated!

.hc

On Apr 28, 2006, at 5:52 PM, B. Bogart wrote:

> Hi Guenter,
>
> I put some ideas on the pddp wiki and a simple start to (tcl) code.
>
> All that is needed is time, or a more efficient programmer than me  
> to do
> it. I think Hans may have started...
>
> Here are some links: (please comment on them)
>
> https://www.pure-data.info/dev/pddp/SpecificationForHelpPatchSearching
> https://www.pure-data.info/dev/pddp/SimpleImplimentation
>
> .b.
>
> geiger wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> ok, that sounds cool. I see everything is defined already. Is  
>> there a plan
>> of implementation ?
>>
>> Günter
>>
>> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>
>>
>>> There has been quite a bit of discussion about meta data in the PDDP
>>> meetings, I'll try to summarize what we have agreed on:
>>>
>>> http://puredata.org/dev/pddp
>>>
>>> The plan is to make a standard subpatch for meta data [pd META].
>>> This hides the meta data and makes it easier to parse for it.  The
>>> terms don't have to be pre-defined, but we should standardize terms.
>>> Like "CATEGORY", "KEYWORDS", "DESCRIPTION", "AUTHOR", etc.
>>>
>>> The name of the object should be taken from the help patch, not from
>>> the meta data.  Each object should have its own help patch.  For
>>> bigger concepts which are linked together, like "math objects",  
>>> there
>>> would be an "about" page with the related help patches link to, and
>>> vice-versa.
>>>
>>> The meta data format is only parsed from the [pd META] subpatch.   
>>> The
>>> meta type is the first part of the comment, its all caps, and its
>>> terminated by a colon.
>>>
>>> KEYWORDS: addition sum
>>> CATEGORY: math
>>>
>>> This means that new meta data can be declared by just adding it to
>>> the [pd META] subpatch in the correct format.  Nothing else would be
>>> needed, i.e. there is no static list of meta types, but its
>>> dynamically generated from the help patches.  Standardization of  
>>> meta
>>> types is important here, otherwise we have chaos.  But with CVS,
>>> that's not too hard to coordinate.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 28, 2006, at 11:37 AM, geiger wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes,
>>>>
>>>> Its trivial to write the script that extracts the information,
>>>> the only real challenge is to define tags and change all the help
>>>> files.
>>>>
>>>> tags could be
>>>>
>>>> Name: (the external name(s))
>>>> Description: (what does it do)
>>>> Author: (the authors name)
>>>> Type: (external/abstraction)
>>>
>>>> (more ?)
>>>>
>>>> All tags together with values go in one comment object. Information
>>>> like last update time is taken from the CVS.
>>>>
>>>> We would need volunteers to fill out the help patches and  
>>>> comunicate
>>>> with the authors of the externals. If someone of the authors is
>>>> against
>>>> this approach the information can still be embedded in the help
>>>> file as a
>>>> subpatch which is hidden behind a white canvasA :)
>>>>
>>>> Unresovled problems are how to make translations etc.
>>>> I don't know, maybe the pddp team has a solution for that.
>>>>
>>>> Günter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It would be awesome to build PDB from meta data embedded in help
>>>>> patches.  Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> .hc
>>>>>
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