[PD] a little ot: creative commons

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Jun 15, 2006, at 1:35 PM, padawan12 at obiwannabe.co.uk wrote:

>> CC addresses the production of culture, the GPL address
>> the production of code.   They are two very different intentions, two
>> very different "things".
>
> I'm sure that makes a great debate. I'm not sure they are so  
> different or if you can ever draw a line between data and code in a  
> truly meaningful way. Pour me te differences in the licences are  
> about simplicity and language, CC being something artists can grok  
> right away.
>
> I'm quite happy that CC works for me for the things I want it to,  
> granting rights for music and letting me decide what can be remixed  
> or merely copied and what it can be used for. If you write code or  
> patches that fall into what you believe is a grey area you're free  
> to choose mix and match licences as you wish, GPL or BSD for code  
> if appropriate, CC non -erivative or CC sharealike. At the end of  
> te day never be afraid to write your own licence parts simply  
> stating your wishes, on a per file basis if you really need to, or  
> pulling bits from licences or supplementing them with your own  
> stuff. Just think it through, be clear and honest about what you  
> want to grant or restrict and try to make life as simple as  
> possible for the end user or else they will be put off using your  
> work.
> Andy

Writing your own licenses makes enforcement even more expensive that  
enforcing a CC license since there wouldn't be any precedents or body  
of knowledge pertaining to that license.

It comes down to this: if someone with a lot more money that you  
wants to violate your CC license, they probably can and will without  
much hassle to them.  The GNU GPL is a different story, nobody has  
even tried to fight the GNU GPL, even large corporations because they  
would have no case against Eben Moglen in court.

Even worse, CC licenses add a cost to the small people that most  
people are trying to encourage.  If someone is just starting out and  
they want to sample a song, they have to spend a fair amount of  
effort figuring out all the CC clauses and what they allow someone to  
do.  This is non-trivial, especially since there are so many possible  
clauses.  This is a real cost that mostly affects the small guy.   
With the GNU GPL, its dead simple: do whatever you want with it as  
long as you distribute any changes or additions also.  That's why I  
have been thinking about releasing everything I do, music, sound  
installations, whatever, under the GNU GPL.

.hc



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>>
>> And, despite being a FLOSS advocate and avid FLOSS programmer  
>> since many
>> years,
>> I take particular offense to this article:
>>
>> 	http://www.metamute.org/?q=en/Freedoms-Standard-Advanced
>>
>> Mako Hill only wishes to extend the naive tautology of the word  
>> "freedom",
>> and
>> knock CC for not having an ideology that is as simple and total as  
>> the GPL.
>>
>> best -august.
>>
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