[PD] Pd standalone instruments ...

Thu Jul 27 00:27:20 CEST 2006

ok,

recompiled it, now it should work atleast on dapper
made it minimal as possible (for pokesdown.pd)

pokesdown/
pokesdown/pokesdown.sh
pokesdown/bin/
pokesdown/bin/pd
pokesdown/bin/pd-gui
pokesdown/bin/pd.tk
pokesdown/bin/pokesdown.pd

and i even made a "run" package with http://www.megastep.org/makeself/
so now you can:

1. download: http://osku.de/pd/foo/pokesdown.run
(you may need to wget it, as my server shows it as text in brauser)

2. run it with "sh pokesdown.run"
(or double click after "chomd +x pokesdown.run". but remember, its still
running after closing the window - "killall pd")

3. enjoy

gotta go sleep
andre

ps. it took so long as i was lazy and installed tcl/tk8.5 with make
install and then didnt knew how to get back to tcl/tk8.4 :/
(so i installed another dapper partition :)

pss. and yes, the auto scrollbar patch has errors, maybe cause i made it
with tcl/tk8.5, gotta check that someday...

pssszzZZ. and for the next "kiosk" feature: only show gem/pdp window :)

On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 20:58 +0200, Andre Schmidt wrote:
> oh, sorry, my mistake
> i was playing with tk8.5 (xft support)
> and actually fogot i had 8.5 :/
> 
> -andre
> ps. if theres need i recompile with tcl/tk8.4
> 
> On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 08:47 +0100, padawan12 wrote:
> > I got a missing  libtk8.5.so, 
> > but I see what you've done I think.
> > That's very cool.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20
> > Andre Schmidt <andre at osku.de> wrote:
> > 
> > > ok,
> > > 
> > > i made a proof of concept (or what ever)
> > > 
> > > download this: http://osku.de/pd/foo/pokesdown.tar.gz
> > > extract it and run the pokesdown.sh in it,
> > > ready. you should now hear the coolest pd tune ever :)
> > > 
> > > should look something like this: http://osku.de/pd/foo/pokesdown.png
> > > 
> > > yeah, works propably only on ubuntu dapper...
> > > -andre
> > > 
> > > ps. remember the kiosk bug, pd is still running after you close the
> > > window!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 18:17 +0200, Andre Schmidt wrote:
> > > > i thought pd is an "environment"... :/
> > > > 
> > > > and now with the "kiosk" mode from iohannes i dont see why you people
> > > > dont make an installer with your favorite tool... :/
> > > > (or pay for someone to do it)
> > > > 
> > > > ... :/
> > > > andre
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 03:04 +0100, padawan12 wrote:
> > > > > I find this discussion very interesting. As I've said elsewhere
> > > > > before, this is the single most important missing
> > > > > feature in Puredata. Not being able to turn the netlist
> > > > > into code is where the road ends for Pd as a serious software
> > > > > development tool, where it stops short of being a fully
> > > > > fledged DSP visual programming language. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:46:55 +0200
> > > > > IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig at iem.at> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > hi
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  >> to read a special configuration-file? hmm, why? what is wrong with the
> > > > > >  >> registry (well, there are lots of things wrong with it, but we don't
> > > > > >  >> want to discuss this here, do we?); at least it makes your program a
> > > > > >  >> little less "cryptic looking" (for those windoze-users who don't use
> > > > > >  >> win95 any more)
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > Editing a registry is far beyond the scope of what the people I want
> > > > > >  > using my patch are willing to learn.  I'm not complaining, this is of
> > > > > >  > course my problem, but this is the reason I made the suggestion.  If
> > > > > >  > I'm the only person who thinks something like this would be neat, then
> > > > > >  > I'll drop it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > i was rather suggesting that _you_ should edit the registry (via a small 
> > > > > > installer) - that is, if you want it to be plug'n'play for your clients.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > i think that if you want people to have an easily usable system, then 
> > > > > > even editing a cryptic(!) .ini-file is way beyond.
> > > > > > so you need something more intuitive, like a small setup program (doing 
> > > > > > autodetection) that will write to a backend (no matter wheter it is an 
> > > > > > rc-file or the registry)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  >> what might be a good idea though, would be a king of "kiosk" mode, where
> > > > > >  >> the pd-main window is not present and where there are no menus at all
> > > > > >  >> (so you would have to control pd via messages).
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > I think menus could stay.  Menus are ubiquitous.  But it seems the
> > > > > >  > only need for a Pd-window is debugging, or of course analysis and
> > > > > >  > such; there are times when it's needed, but there are times it isn't.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > on my side, i (and my non-freaky composers) had never a problem with the 
> > > > > > additional main-window.
> > > > > > the menus however, are really there for handling pd (the framework) and 
> > > > > > NOT your application (patch).
> > > > > > if there is NO menu, you can build your custom one (either with special 
> > > > > > widgets like [popup] or with normal [bng]s.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The people who might use my patch are other composers interested in
> > > > > > > alternate tuning systems.  For the most part they are not computer
> > > > > > > people.  "Cryptic-looking" isn't a bust in the slightest, it is how it
> > > > > > > comes across, when I send an email to a composer to tell him how to
> > > > > > > use my patch, and I have to devote several paragraphs to telling him
> > > > > > > how to first get a couple of external libraries loaded and make sure
> > > > > > > it selected the right sound device.  Again, I would love to tell him
> > > > > > > "tough, learn something about computers if you want to use it," but
> > > > > > > that would impede my possible future lessons with him.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > i totally agree that this if often nor an option.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >> apart from that, why don't you distribute your "application" bundled
> > > > > > >> with everything: pd, externals, abstractions, patch, startup-script.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Startup-script you say...  I hadn't thought of that.  Far less work
> > > > > > > than developing a standalone-application compiler.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > yes, that was the main point of my email: use startup-scripts.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > mfga.sdr.
> > > > > > IOhannes
> > > > > > 
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