[PD] messing with help-patches

[Kyle Klipowicz]

I also am curious as to how Frank organizes his stuff, since it seems
that he has so much of it!

~Kyle

On 8/21/06, Roman Haefeli <reduzierer at yahoo.de> wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 15:59 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> > Looking at the help patch will only give you a list of help patches.
>
> yeah, you are right, it's better to look into the abs-directory itself.
> but when exploring freshly installed externals, i usually have a quick
> view on the list of helpfiles, just to get an idea... objects that miss
> helpfile probably will never be used by me, since i don't know how they
> work anyway....
>
> > > i see, although this is only a problem in pd-extended, afaik. that means
> > > there is no other way than having to add an extra -helppath for each
> > > external. since the good ol' .pdrc has been considered to be deprecated
> > > many times , iirc, and i couldn't find a way to add a -helppath through
> > > the menu, this concept seems to be problematic.
> >
> > Recursively added help-paths would also break stuff or at least create
> > confusion on standard Pd. For example, assuming you have a help patch
> > for maxlib/scale-help.pd and Gem/scale-help.pd. Which one should be
> > used when you look for help on [scale]?
>
> i don't understand your point here. let's say you have '-lib Gem:maxlib
> -helppath /to/gem/helpfiles -helppath to/maxlib/helpfiles'. first you
> don't know which [scale] is used when instanciated, then you still don't
> know which helpfile is loaded on right-click->help.
>
> > A solution could be directory namespaces.
>
> this is only a solution for abs, but not for externals, yet. and the
> fact that pd-extended uses dir-namespaces doesn't make things easier,
> since it breaks 'interchangeability' of patches between pd-extended and
> pd.
>
> > This would work for exmaple if you have a collection of patches in a
> > directory "netpd" and if you will always use them with the directory
> > prefix "netpd/".
> > So for example your "netpd" directory is in "mystuff", you have
> > "mystuff/netpd/run.pd" and "mystuff/netpd/run-help.pd" inside which
> > calls and explains [netpd/run].  Then you add this to
> > .pdrc/pdsettings:
> >
> >  -path mystuff -helppath mystuff
>
> i just found out, that when the helppatches are located in the same dir
> as the abs, specifying only the -path works for helpfiles, too. this
> makes your way - putting the helpfiles together with the abs - even more
> usefull.
>
> well, since i talked only with you, frank, may i ask you, how you
> organize your stuff, just as an example? do you leave the helpfiles,
> where the install-script has put them? or do you place them altogether
> somewhere?
>
> roman
>
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