[PD] P-ADmin

[Enrique Erne]

hi

when loading a preset all these events causes dropouts. i suppose every 
state saving system has similar problems.

- reading and broadcasting all data from a textfile (just the user 
loading the preset)

- set received data coming from the net that are floats, symbols, list, 
samples(experimental) and tables. of corse big tables cause longer 
dropouts.

*** until here with 1 or 2 patches without tables you shouldn't hear 
dropouts.

- some patches do dynamic stuff like qseq2(stepseq) or mx(mixer). 
loading a qseq2 preset will create new abstractions and a GUI 
containing the steps. that needs time and pd does that in immediately  
which leads to a audio dropout.

- P-ADmin can store multiple presets into one textfile. from my 
experience that's  better than reading 10 different textfiles at once. 
if you load a P-ADmin session it first tells creator witch patches 
should be open by now. if one is missing it will open this instrument. 
opening different patches at once can cause huge dropouts.

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so what can you do? set pd's latency(preferences/audiosettings) to 
200ms or even more should help. maybe not for dynamic-created dropouts 
but probably it'd be enough for table caused dropouts.

we are sometimes running linux, osx and windows with netpd (exactly 
same patches and data) in the same place and i noticed that performance 
on win and linux is much better than osx. on osx i usually play without 
compute audio. there is anyway just one pc connected to the sound 
system (when we are all in the same place).

if you have 2 pc's you could laod a session on one pc while the other 
one is running and mix both kind of like a disc-jokey. then you'll have 
to figure how to synchronize the 2 netpd-systems.

or georg holzmanns threadlib. i suppose that would be the best 
solution. the possibility to do [; pd open( and [; pd-subpatch obj( in 
separated threads would be great. i tried it once. [; pd-subpatch obj( 
i a own thread sounded very strange. maybe there was something wrong 
with dsp-chain... i hope it's possible to make it work once... i'm 
saving money that i can afford georg to continue threadlib ;-)

running netpd from a ram-disc might also reduces dropouts. it should be 
faster to load patches, abstractions and presets.

hope that helped a bit. you probably wont get rid of the dropouts with 
that.

good luck

Enrique



On Aug 31, 2006, at 8:53 PM, beau c wrote:

> Hello Enrique,
>    I get a lot of audio drop-outs when I change between P-ADmin
> presets? do you have any advice for me?
>
> B~
>
> On 8/23/06, Enrique Erne <pd at mild.ch> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> sorry the picture was out of date. current version of P-ADmin
>> has 2 bang rows to load/save presets. (i did like the old GUi
>> better then the current one)
>>
>> if you type in a new name it stores the current state of all
>> toggled instruments as well as when you use the red bang for
>> an existing preset.
>>
>> to load a preset and it's instrument click on the green bang (first 
>> row)
>>
>> ok?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2006, at 7:58 AM, beau c wrote:
>>
>> > Hi List,
>> >
>> >   Is anyone out there using netpd? I am trying to figure out 
>> P-ADmin,
>> > when I noticed that the load buttons shown on the picture seem to be
>> > missing in the patch that I downloaded? Does anyone have a version
>> > that works? or know what the problem could be, and how to fix it.
>> >
>> > http://www.netpd.org/Pad
>> >
>> >