[PD] Operative systems and puredata

[David Powers]

I had a conversation with a PD developer who suggested that a majority
of actual PD users (not developers) are on WinCrap. I'm not sure if
this is worldwide, or more in the USA. egardless, based on what I see
on the list here, it appears that most developers are on Linux
exclusively. This causes some serious splits and problems for the
community.

At least here, all PC's come with Wincrap, so it's certainly more
accessible to the average person. The average working person is surely
not going to have enough knowledge to run a Linux OS. I'm far above
average and I always run into problems. Yes, it's the fault of
monopoly capitalism that this is so - but this is hardly the fault of
the average person, and OS elitism is not going to help or change
things.

I suggest, that developers ought to consider forming teams, and find
people who will help with alternative operating systems not available
to them. If it's not really viable to compile something for all
systems, so be it - but I wonder if in many cases, it's more the case
that Linux developers just don't care about the other OS's.

Btw, if someone can tell me where I can learn to compile for win32, I
might even be willing to participate in such things. I coded a little
C++, but I just remember clicking on something in my IDE and the
compiled program came out. I'm quite certain it's harder than that.
And, if some expensive commercial software is needed for this task, I
have no problem stealing the software to do this (assuming it's from a
big company).

***

In regards to Pure:Dyne. I tried a recent version two days ago.

First of all, it looks really cool. So far so good.

But, as is so typical in the Open Source world, there's almost no
documentation. When I try to open PD, nothing happens. Fluxus did
open, however. So, once again, I'm stuck. If anybody knows how the
stuff works, that would be very nice.

~David

On 9/7/06, Frank Barknecht <fbar at footils.org> wrote:
> Hallo,
> Javier García hat gesagt: // Javier García wrote:
>
> > a week ago, a user of this list gave this link,
> >
> > http://artefacte.org/pd/
> >
> > to have a grid for triggering videos in our pd patches.
> >
> >
> > The problem about it (at least for me) is it works only with Linux.
> >
> >
> > Is there any way to make ALL "things" for puredata to run them always
> > indepently of the platform?
> >
> > If yes? Why some people do it that way?
>
> Many people don't have MS-Windows machines. I don't. Many other people
> don't have Mac-machines and many people don't have Linux machines. So
> it's hard to offer binaries for all three operating systems for a
> single person.
>
> What many developers do provide is the source code. Most of the time
> the source code can be made to compile and run on every of the three
> major operating systems. I guess it is possible for the videogrid as
> well, but I didn't check. I don't own MS-Windows anyways.
>
> So if you don't want to wait for someone else to compile for whatever
> operating system you use, one way out would be to learn how to compile
> source code and how to install the neccessary compiler environment
> yourself.
>
> I know, this isn't a perfect advice, but if you for a moment think
> about us Linux users: We cannot even get the source code to a lot of
> the MS-Windows or Mac applications (like Max/MSP, Reactor, vvvv etc.)
> so we don't even have the chance to make it run natively on the OS we
> use.
>
> (Of course another solution may be to run Linux. With pure:dyne this
> doesn't even require a harddisk installation.)
>
> Ciao
> --
>  Frank Barknecht                 _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
>
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